I have no clue what the first mare is. She was sold to me as a Morgan/QH. I see no QH in her at all. Morgan is a possibility. The second is a Haflinger. She's the best riding horse you could ever ask for. Puts up with everything.
That black mare looks very much like a mare in our pasture who is freisian/appy, thus the skinny tail.
Our park ranger has a haflinger who is the best horse. She rides and drives. I rode a hafflinger once and they are truly wonderful horses. If I had a daughter who wanted a horse, and I wanted to get one that I thought would be a "safe" horse, I'd lookd for a Haffy.