02-11-2009, 08:19 AM
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#1 | Foal
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Le Sueur, MN
Posts: 25
Horses: 0 | Automatic insect control system owners Do you own an automatic insect control system in your stable or does the stable your horse is boarded in have an automatic insect control system? |
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02-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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#2 | Super Moderator on Maternity Leave
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey
Posts: 9,958
| My barn owner uses fly predators in the pastures.
I haven't been there for a year yet, but in the summer there wasn't a problem with flies. |
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02-12-2009, 09:27 AM
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#3 | Foal
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Le Sueur, MN
Posts: 25
Horses: 0 | Thats good there are no flies there. There are many methods of controlling flies, predators are one of them.
We dont condone the use of other methods. We just offer a method that has also proven to be very effective. Every method of fly control has it's area of use. The Auto Mist system specializes in the control of insects inside of a stable/barns/facility. Our client base ranges from the small 2 stall stable to very large commercial breeding barns, boarding barns, training barns and show barns. The Auto Mist system is simply one effective method.
Did you know that for the past 10 years the Auto Mist system has become a great tool for mosquito control in back yards? Residential home owners use the Auto Mist to spray their yard to control mosquitoes. Many residential home owners invest in their landscaping by putting in pools, patios, decks and other area for outdoor entertainment, then find they can not enjoy these spaces because of troubling mosquito problems. The annoyance along with growing West Nile concerns keep many people inside during the summer months.
Nozzles are placed around the perimeter of a yard and the system sprays 2-3 times per day -set on a schedule that meets the customers lifestyle. The spray used is the same used in a horse stable. This spray is also the same or similar to what cities/municipalities spray via truck foggers or helicoptors to control mosquitoes with-in city limits. Many home owners use handheld foggers to treat their yard. The Auto Mist system does it automatically.
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02-13-2009, 06:43 PM
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#4 | Super Moderator on Maternity Leave
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey
Posts: 9,958
| Besides flies and mosquitos, does this keep away a bunch of other insects?
In the summer by my house I can never stay out too long because of all the bugs (like nats and everything) |
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02-14-2009, 03:24 PM
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#5 | Weanling
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas
Posts: 557
Horses: 0 | Is automist a specific system & pesticide or is just a system that outputs a product.
If it is a system that uses a specific product, what type of chemicals would my animals look at coming into contact with? Are they natural, synthetic, or what type of chemical compounds are they made from.
I personally prefer to use all natural pest removal and prevention techniques, as I do not want to compromise any of my animals health. |
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02-14-2009, 05:20 PM
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#6 | Foal
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Le Sueur, MN
Posts: 25
Horses: 0 | The Auto Mist is equipment, a overhead spraying system. Any liquid can be sprayed through it. The majority of customers use pyrethrin or permethrin - standard insecticides as they are extremely effective. We also know of customers that run "all natural" products through the Auto Mist. I dont know how the effectiveness is on the "all natural" products they use. We have tested 5-6 "all natual" products and have not had success with them. When a good all natural product comes along that will give effective control and knockdown, has a price that does shock anyone, we will be the first to offer it.
I do know that there are serveral "all natural" products out there for spraying directly on horses that work pretty good, but we have not found one that is effective for our application through the Auto Mist. |
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02-14-2009, 05:21 PM
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#7 | Foal
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Le Sueur, MN
Posts: 25
Horses: 0 | Quote:
Originally Posted by appylover31803 Besides flies and mosquitos, does this keep away a bunch of other insects?
In the summer by my house I can never stay out too long because of all the bugs (like nats and everything) | Since it uses insecticides, it does control all insects. What insects depends on the time of day the system is activated to spray. |
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02-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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#8 | Super Moderator on Maternity Leave
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey
Posts: 9,958
| ahh ok. Thanks for getting back to me. |
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02-15-2009, 11:49 AM
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#9 | Foal
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Le Sueur, MN
Posts: 25
Horses: 0 | Quote:
Originally Posted by shmurmer4 Is automist a specific system & pesticide or is just a system that outputs a product.
If it is a system that uses a specific product, what type of chemicals would my animals look at coming into contact with? Are they natural, synthetic, or what type of chemical compounds are they made from.
I personally prefer to use all natural pest removal and prevention techniques, as I do not want to compromise any of my animals health. | Our tests have shown that using an "all natural" product in the Auto Mist system does work but requires the use of much more spray, usually making it very expensive. The normal number of cycles per day when using an standard permethrin or pyrethrin is between 2-5 times per day and 60 seconds each. Spring and fall require 2-3 per day and in the heat of summer 3-5 per day. Summer heat generates more fly breeding. Of course manure management in a stable has a large impact on the fly populations.
After testing "all natural" products at various farms accross the US we found that 8-12 sprays per day were needed for effectiveness. Also 120 seconds per spray cycle or more were needed to acheive effective results. The testing subjects that were selected had used a permethrin or pyrethrin based insecticide in the past. To equal permethrin or pyrethrin effectiveness they had to increase the spray cycles and increase the spray time to get similar results in fly control.
There were several products used during this test that were "all natural". Active ingredients in many of the products included cedar oils, lemon grass oils, garlic oils, mint oils, thyme oils, sage oils and more. All sprays tested quailified as EPA 25B all natural products. |
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02-17-2009, 01:24 PM
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#10 | Weanling
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas
Posts: 557
Horses: 0 | Nifty, Is there a link to the report of the tests?
I just want to look at the control group numbers vs natural vs insecticide.
I understand that there is no true way to test this theory because you cannot use the same barn to test all three each time because one will change. |
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