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        10-23-2012, 10:43 PM
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    Weanling
    *&@^# mud!

    Ok well where I am at we just had our first rain this week and already my previously dusty pastures are turning to mud and it's only just begun ugh. The worst area is of course right outside the stalls where they come in and out as they please. Does anyone have any good ideas of what a person could put down to help with this so they arent in total bogs going in and out???? What have others used with good results?
         
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        10-23-2012, 10:47 PM
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    Started
    Oh, boy.

    The only places I've been to that really do it well, are tracks and farms in Kentucky. Most likely the same in any high end horse area.

    They put drain pipe down in gravel, that is covered with a mix of sands, clay, gravel, which is covered with yet another mix. You end up with about 12 to 18" of product down. It works and works well for years.

    That sounds awful and expensive, but, your county's extension office can offer Do It Yourself plans for drainage that, while labor intensive, are for smaller projects and at a much lower cost.

    So worth it. And you could through a party upon completion and dance on your non-muddy entrances!
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        10-23-2012, 10:51 PM
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    Yearling
    Alot of sand and gravel
         
        10-23-2012, 11:11 PM
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    Green Broke
    Put down construction carpet and cover it with rock. The carpet will keep your rock from disappearing down into the bottomless hole of muck.
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        10-24-2012, 03:26 AM
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    Originally Posted by Darrin    
    Put down construction carpet and cover it with rock. The carpet will keep your rock from disappearing down into the bottomless hole of muck.
    I like this idea and have two questions.

    If an entrance is on a grade, should the construction carpet be secured in some way at the top?

    And

    I prefer to not have very large gravel, and only gravel around my barns/sheds. Do you have any recommendation for a commonly available mix that would still provide the drainage desired?
         
        10-24-2012, 09:08 AM
      #6
    Weanling
    Unhappy

    Yes def a good idea! And I second that question....what would you recommend as a mix as far as the gravel is concerned?
         
        10-24-2012, 04:29 PM
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    Weanling
    Driveway mix works really well, not 100% sure on how to explain it but that's what we put down on the laneways for the cows to get to the different pastures this year.

    I think there was just a gravel/shale base then the driveway mix about a foot deep.

    Tile lines are also a really good thing, also works nicely in pastures to keep wet spots from forming.

    But in the end I would talk with local extension office and also talk to those at soil & water conservation, they might be able to help you with a whole farm plan to help keep out of the mud all together
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        10-25-2012, 12:17 AM
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    Green Broke
    Carpet can take a mild slope but not a severe one. If it is steep then it's best to dig down and build back up with gravel.

    What type of rock to put down depends on what exactly you want and how deep a layer of rock you are putting down. Using 3" crushed rock base will fill up a hole rather quickly. Next put down a layer of 3/4 minus. For a final layer put down a couple inches of unwashed chicken grit (what's it called around here) this is fine crushed rock that's not washed. The not washed part means it does a better job of interlocking with each other for a solid layer.

    Tips for the job:
    -Every couple inches of rock go ahead and tamp it down. The more packed your rock the longer it last.

    -There are several types of construction carpet, what you want is a carpet that allows moisture to pass through it (not all does).

    -The deeper you pile on gravel the longer it will last. I've seen a lot of people toss down carpet and cover it with a couple inches of gravel. Doing that means your are wasting your time and throwing away your money. Absolute minimum is 6" of gravel over your carpet and at that it wont last to many years with horses while at the same time 6" works pretty good for your driveway. A foot of hard packed gravel or more is best for horses. Last 2-4 inches of gravel should be your unwhashed chicken grit and tamp it down until you are sick of tamping then tamp it down some more.

    -Carry the gravel on past your carpet, taper it off. This will help keep the edges from being exposed which will lead to peeling back.

    -Scrape the muck builup off a couple times a year.
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        10-25-2012, 07:14 AM
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    Started
    Thanks Darrin and Tim. Good information to get started with.
         
        10-25-2012, 09:05 AM
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    Weanling
    Yes THANK YOU! Excellent information. I am not having luck finding this construction carpet? Where would one be able to locate that and would it be called anything else???
         

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