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    10-10-2011, 11:32 AM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Dresden    
X does not come out often and I agree, Iride but I feel bad for the little old pony. If X isn't going to train him and I can make life easier for the pony without making it hard for myself I would like to.

I like that idea, Amba but I have a hunch the BO will just tell me not to bother which is why I would like to work something in about X asking me but with it seeming like a helpful offer not a rebuke for something not being done.
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Then maybe you could say something like "X knows how hard pony is to catch and when she realized he follows Lucky in she asked if I could bring him in to make it easier for everyone." If BO tried to tell you not to bother then you could say you really don't mind, happy to help, etc.

I disagree with those that said that the BO is not being neglectful. True it is not BO's job to train pony to be caught but it is BO's job to take care of pony. If pony isn't being fed, BO isn't doing her job. If pony's lack of training is making it difficult for her to do that job she needs to make X aware of that so something can be done. At the very least she should jump at the offer to have someone else deal with the issue she is ignoring.
     
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    10-10-2011, 11:44 AM
  #12
Green Broke
I agree with Dream and Amba. Not feeding a pony and cooking someone elses dinner isn't the same. As said the pony is loosing weight because of NOT BEING FED, if that isn't neglect... I don't know what is.

I say, just bring him in. If someone asks, just say He follows my pony so I just bring him.
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    10-10-2011, 12:19 PM
  #13
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
I agree with Dream and Amba. Not feeding a pony and cooking someone elses dinner isn't the same. As said the pony is loosing weight because of NOT BEING FED, if that isn't neglect... I don't know what is.

I say, just bring him in. If someone asks, just say He follows my pony so I just bring him.
Sorry - but this is the BO's issue.

If Dresden feeds it and it colics . . .
     
    10-10-2011, 12:25 PM
  #14
Yearling
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Originally Posted by mls    
Sorry - but this is the BO's issue.

If Dresden feeds it and it colics . . .
I didn't see it stated anywhere that she would be feeding the pony, just that she would bring him in so when feed is dumped he's there to eat it.
     
    10-10-2011, 12:30 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Amba1027    
I didn't see it stated anywhere that she would be feeding the pony, just that she would bring him in so when feed is dumped he's there to eat it.
Yep, the BO would still feed him, I would just be leading him into his stall. He is skinny. I can see his ribs and I've watched him get chased away from the food in the pasture so I know there is some validity to X's claims. Thank you all for the suggestions :)
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    10-10-2011, 12:40 PM
  #16
Weanling
If the BO can't adequately handle the pony (i.e. Catch him and bring him in to feed) then she needs to not have that pony at her farm. The pony's owner is trying to not have to be responsible for her own horse, SHE should ask the owner what the problem is and brainstorm solutions with the BO... it isn't your problem. I'm sure you could find a tactful way to say that to the pony's owner. It isn't really your business and is it worth YOU potentially offending the barn owner by being put into the position of "little birdy"?

However, I'd have to question the BO's capacity to adequately care for the animals she boards if she doesn't remedy the situation on her own, or inform the woman that she is unable to provide the necessary services for her horse because she doesn't have time to chase it around the paddock. As a BO, there is no way I would allow a situation like that to continue at my farm... it is my job to stay one step ahead of my boarders and be "on the ball" with the care of the horses in my charge. If I felt someone's horse was just too much of a pain, and that the level of "pain in the butt" was potentially detrimental to the horses health (not eating adequately, etc) I'd let the owner know and ask them how they propose to remedy the situation (i.e. Training their horse). If there was nothing that the horse's owner could/would do, I'd tell them that since the health of the horses in my charge is of the utmost importance to me, and I couldn't provide that same level of care to a horse who wouldn't be caught (and I'm not willing to chase/train/etc), the horse's owner needs to seek alternate, better suited living situation for their horse. Of course, I'd give them a reasonable amount of time to re-situation themselves elsewhere. I think it would be virtually impossible for the BO to offend the owner of the horse in that regard because her concern is for the welfare of the horse (which is the BO's job).
     
    10-10-2011, 12:51 PM
  #17
Weanling
It is not up to the BO to train the pony. But it is up to the BO to ensure the pony is receiving food. So the BO and owner need to make arrangements on how to handle the situation. If I had a horse/owner like this.....Id ensure that we worked out a "plan" to rectify the situation.

If you get involved in anyway, you ARE in the middle. I would approach the owner and tell her she needs to talk w the BO about the situation, (of course say this in a nice way that you'd love to help etc)
AS if the pony got hurt while you're "handling" it, then YOU are responsible, not sure if you want that hanging over your head.
     
    10-10-2011, 01:07 PM
  #18
Weanling
[QUOTE=sillyhorses;1196590]

As a BO, there is no way I would allow a situation like that to continue at my farm... QUOTE]

Totally agree. I can think of many ways to rectify the situation, but not knowing fully well what the routine is regarding their feeding and turnout practices cannot comment what would and wouldn't work in this situation....Just know what would work at my facility, and I would never have let it get so far as to have a horse loose weight because a horse couldn't be caught.

But the bottom line is, there is huge lack of communication here from the owner, and the BO, and until that is rectified, its clear the pony suffers.
The owner should have approached the BO long ago and said something to her, not try and drag you into it now after the fact.
If she is concerned the horse is loosing weight, she as an owner needs to do 2 things...talk w the owner AND train her pony (as its clear she knows why the horse is being left outside)
There is also a lack of pro activeness on the BO part regarding the issue at hand as a good BO wouldn't let the situation escalate this far.

Long and short of it is, its not YOUR job to fix the problem. I toally get that its not big deal or extra work for you at the time.....but it could potentiality be a big deal if something happens when feeding or handling the pony
     
    10-10-2011, 09:21 PM
  #19
Foal
If I was.in that position I also woukd have no problem taking a few extra minutes for the pony. BUT as everyone else said, it is not fixing the problem. If you arent there the pony doesnt eat. And I know I would feel so guilty about that even knowing it isnt my problem. Helping out right now might not be a big deal. In fact it might be very helpful to get him fed for a short period of time while they BO and owner find a solution to fix the problem.

Owner needs to head up the discussion. Something like hey BO, my pony is a PITA with being caught. He is low man on the totem pole as well and as a result he is losing weight. I need to fix this, can you help me find a solution? In the meantime Dresden said she can help me out a little bit and bring him in to eat when she is here to do it.

It is simple and in no way confrontational. You arent in the middle of anything. That owner HAS to find a solution to the problem asap. You can't be the long term fix. I would talk to her and just present it as I thought about it and I am worried what happens when I can't bring him in. And ask her to talk to BO on all accounts before doing this. If you don't you will wind up feeling responsible for a horse that isnt yours and might go even more out of your way because of compassion for him.

Good luck! Off my soap box now.
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    10-10-2011, 11:42 PM
  #20
THN
Foal
Dear BO,

X has asked me if I wouldn't mind bringing in her pony when I bring my horse in. She realizes that he is hard to catch but follows my horse when I bring him in. I don't mind doing it but thought I would talk to you before saying yes. Though my schedule is fairly regular there will be days I can't do it. What are your thoughts?
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