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post #31 of 49 Old 07-04-2012, 04:04 PM
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I have been to many barns in the US that have dirt floors and have yet to see a horse laying down during the day.
This is a horse on concrete floored stable, she came in, to be out of the flies, ate hay and went to bed. This was mid morning.

In the UK most people bed far more deeply and up to the door, which is rarely done in the US.







The last two are of young horses in the loose shed, (The first had just been castrated and the dog would not leave him until he was standing) These are on a dirt floor but if it was not bedded deeply they would not lie down very much at all.
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I would love to bed that deeply, God knows I've tried, but my problem is deep bedding only encourages my mare to pee in her stall instead of going outside. In my own experience, deep bedding causes more waste which I dont have the room to manage, and frankly is grossly expensive, $260 a month versus $260 a year. In addition my farrier forbids me from bedding with straw.
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In addition my farrier forbids me from bedding with straw.
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Not my farrier quoted but same reasoning: Flying Changes: magazine for northwest sporthorse enthusiasts
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Ahh don't keep your horse on poorly maintained straw, I get it
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I like concrete, with mats, with bedding. I couldn't handle dirt...

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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Like I said, since my mare will pee on any more than a trace of bedding, she has made her choice; cleanliness over inside comfort.

That being said I would love to find a happy medium between stall skins and stall mattresses.
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If a horse is inside it should be able to pee comfortably without splashing itself.
I have found that a deep bed is far less wasteful than a shallow one.

Most of the stables have a 'cow mattress' as a floor. This is fine rubber granules covered with a membrane - it is like walking on a water bed! Very giving but, I found that by just giving them a splash area they would pee and poop on it, tread the mess around and then lie in it. False economy! I was using more shavings because I was cleaning it all out every day whereas with a deep bed There was less trampling around, and far less to remove.

Straw should be clean and long. I would have them all on shavings but in the UK it is well over $10 a bale and they do not go far. If I bed one of these stables down then I would use at least 10 bales to start with.

We have torrential rain at the moment and I brought all the horses in for the night, within 30 minutes of them being inside they were all lying down. I like them to be off their feet as often as possible.
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See that's the fundamental difference. I do not want my horse to pee inside. There's no reason she cannot go outside to pee and come back in to a warm comfortable stall. Her turnout is designed to be a horse litter box with specific areas to pee and poop outside. To me, why would I want to encourage her to pee inside? There is nothing positive nor nothing to gain by my mare peeing indoors. And since horses don't like to pee where it splashes and in turn causes urine burns, why accommodate behavior I'm looking prevent.

She has a specific place to poop and to pee and to lay down and they are all different areas she has free access to from her stall. That in conjunction with her track paddock she actually has more specialized areas she uses. She has a sand pit to roll in an obstacle course to play in and grass patch to graze or sleep in.

Like I said, I have no practical reason to WANT
her to pee indoors, so I don't encourage it, and I only use a scoop of puffed wood pellets; only enough to absorb stray rain or enough to act as a sweeping compound for anything she may track in. The stall mats are more than enough comfort for her to lay down, and she does, but with a 3 month old foal who literally crawls on her if she does, for practicality purposes she doesn't do it a lot right now.
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