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post #41 of 49 Old 07-06-2012, 02:38 PM
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I've only ever had dirt stalls with thick mats and plenty of shavings. I'd prefer concrete, but my mom is adamant against it (my parents tore all the concrete out when they moved in). My horses all lay down to sleep at night, and my older gelding lays down in his stall during the day as well.
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It's a playful forbidding. It's more like telling a friend, I forbid you to wear those ugly ass pants when we go out tonight!

Except in my case my farrier is an expert in natural hoof care. I pay her her expertise, and yes I do make my own decisions, I also weigh heavily on the advice of those I employ. I don't hire fools, I only hire the best I can find, so when they forbid me even playful joke, I am going to of course consider their advice.

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"Forbids" you? Really? Who is making the decisions about YOUR horse? Giving you advice, backing it up with evidence and you deciding to follow said advice is one thing but "forbidding" you to make your own decisions is not a healthy customer/client relationship.
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It's a playful forbidding. It's more like telling a friend, I forbid you to wear those ugly ass pants when we go out tonight!

Except in my case my farrier is an expert in natural hoof care. I pay her her expertise, and yes I do make my own decisions, I also weigh heavily on the advice of those I employ. I don't hire fools, I only hire the best I can find, so when they forbid me even playful joke, I am going to of course consider their advice.


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Ok, sorry, it's just one of my huge pet peeves when people give professional experts a sense of control. "My dr won't let me" "My farrier forbids me" "My trainer makes me" etc. It is fine for the way you are speaking, those who know that they really do have a choice in the matter but for some people they take it too literally and far too many people do not accept responsibility in the decision making process for their animals, their children or themselves, instead they pawn off that responsibility on the experts they pay for their OPINION, they are just that, human beings with an educated opinion, they are not gods or rulers.
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I see some UK people preferring concrete. I'm originally from Europe too and must say that what sold me on the house I bought here in the US was that the barn had a concrete floor! I looked at a couple of places that had dirt floors in the barn and I just wasn't feeling it...

I bed with straw too. It composts a lot quicker than sawdust, which makes a huge difference for me (I have limited acreage to spread it on and am too impatient to wait more than 6 months for a manure pile to compost). If you bed deeply enough with straw, it's (in my experience) no worse than sawdust/shavings. One catch with it is though that it has to be a little damp before it will absorb moisture. So if you bed with straw, make sure you lay a thick bed so urine can soak into the lower part of it. The top will then stay dry longer.
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post #45 of 49 Old 07-12-2012, 03:13 PM
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I am from OK and have bed on both concrete and dirt/clay floors. I see the benefits of both. The problem with the dirt/ clay is the horses are able to create craters in their stalls, whether that is from peeing or from digging. Even with rubber mats, you still end up with squishing of pee under them if you have a heavy peeing horse, esp since clay isn't the most draining. If I ever have to bring in more clay to fill in stall craters again it will be too soon.

Currently the barn we are using has concrete floors with drains (though the drains I am sure need cleaned out after many yrs of use) along with rubber mats on top. We bed on paper shavings and will bed anywhere from 5 inches thick down to just enough to soak the pee. Stalls are much easier to clean, and we have not had any soundness issues.
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We have 2-3 feet of sand and then a 1/2 foot layer of stone dust on top of that for comfort. In the concrete stall is where we keep the pigs.

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I have seen both dirt and concrete around here. I've never actually seen someone not use rubber mats so I don't know how much of a difference that makes.

I think that if I built a barn I'd probably use concrete. The dirt floors tended to stink more and be harder to take care of.

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No offense - but I guess it boils down to how much upkeep one is willing to do.

It's not healthy for a horse to spend extended periods of time standing on concrete - much less laying on it. No matter how deep the bedding, a horse can get down to bare nothing and mark up a leg while they are laying down. Concrete has tiny pores which retain odor.

We do everything as needed - add fill, shift mats, use lime, add shavings, etc. It's not hard - it's for the horses.
Okay, there's no need to imply that those who use concrete floors care about their horses less or are not as willing to work hard for them. At all. That was rude.

Also, I've never seen more or less soundness issues with either floor. And this is with both deep and shallow bedding systems.

Depending on how hard dirt is packed, I imagine it can be almost or as hard as concrete.
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Interesting debate

I'm not sure what is under the rubber mats at my barn, but now I'm going to ask and find out!
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post #49 of 49 Old 07-25-2012, 07:33 PM
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I'd rather have concrete. We have dirt floors at the barn. We clean our stalls good but with concrete there would be less dips in the floor, easier to clean with a power washer when we have to do a big cleaning ob and the smell of ammonia would be a lot less.
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