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    07-06-2011, 12:52 AM
Oh, and it has VINYL fencing, which I like a lot, and it's driveway is gated, so privacy. :) There's about four trails on it, too, that I'd let my boarders take their horses out on whenever they wanted to so long as they asked fist(in case there's others trail riding, already; don't want to chance anything!).
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    07-06-2011, 12:16 PM
So the aisle has to be kept spotless but it's OK for horses to stand in & smell urine all day? I know places like that, look real nice until you look closely. I'd leave too.
I left a place that required a 30 day notice. I was loading up & the BO asked when I would be back. I said, "Never" He mentioned the 30 day notice & I told him to sue me. I never heard a thing. It is courteous to follow the contract but I figure if the horse isn't getting the proper care the BO's have already voided the contract themselves.

In Wisconsin, even if a boarder owes money the BO cannot stop the horse owner from taking their horse. In one case a BO chained & padlocked a horse in a stall! It got ugly, cops were called, horse was freed & the BO was told by the police to take it to small claims court, which they never did.

To me a boarding place is like a day care. Who would keep their child at a place that wasn't up to par & they had to worry about their child?

I also have a small boarding barn. My contract says if you want to leave you are free to at any time. Having a horse should be a happy experience, so people should be where they are happy.
    07-06-2011, 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Wancata    
I went to see my horse today. I have been treating him for an abscess, thrush and all kinds of bacterial stuff. The vet has been out twice and has given me instructions for care. With out any other conclusive findings (we did xrays and everything), she felt the bacteria in his stall because they don't use the appropriate shavings to absorb the urine, might be a cause. But, the barn owners just told me Today, that I can no longer treat my horses foot, because soaking it leaves water in the isle (sometimes he kicks the bucket over) and the Thrush treatment is staining their cement. Now, I switched what I was using because they said I couldn't use Blue Coat or Thrush Buster. My vet said use Thrush X and scrub it with iodine and soak ect, ect to treat for a possible abscess in one and get rid of thrush in the others. So when I said that I switched my method and have been since doing it in the wash stall, their response was, "No. No more treatments. Zero." that is a quote. A DIRECT QUOTE.

So, what? I just don't get my horse better? I can't soak him or clean his feet? So what should I do Mr. Barn Owner? Let his foot rot off and just buy a new one?

These people are not getting another cent out of me. And in fact, since I am pulling my horse out tomorrow, if I can still cancel that check, I will.
Please note - your vet cannot and will not testify an 'exact cause'. A vet for the BO could just as easily say the thrush was caused due to improper cleaning of the hoof on YOUR part.

As far as the BO verbally telling you that you could not treat your horse - hear say. Your word against his. As a BO myself, I know how things get twisted. A word added or deleted when a conversation is repeated can entirely change the context of the exchange.

I agree with all of those who have recommended you pay the full amount and not burn any bridges.
    07-06-2011, 03:21 PM
AB, what makes you think I wasn't careful? I tried to scrub the drops after I was finished. I guess to me, its a barn. It happens. And the stuff goes on his feet. It was hard to keep it off the floors.

I was not allowed to do it outside or in the turnout because when he walked in, it got in the concrete. They said I would have to stand outside with him till it dries. Yet they don't turn out horses because of the flies. So I am supposed to stand outside in them while my horses feet dry?

They asked me not to use the blue stuff, so I switched products and they still got angry. So I started doing it in the wash stall. And when they said no to that also. I thought they were straight up nuts. So I decided just to move the very next day. My mother, bless her heart, said, screw 'em. Keep treating his foot and keep their floors clean to the best of your ability. You already paid.

I actually thought about that until I got a call from my vet with my fecal results to let me know my horse had worms.

WORMS!!! My horse had a Negative Fecal on April 2nd. That very day they raised my board and said that they wanted to control the wormer and were now including a feed through. When I decided to leave, I had the vet take a new fecal just incase because the BO's at the new barn said they were worm free. I also looked in the feed room for this supposid feed through wormer and found none. Then my fecal comes back that my horse is loaded with worms. What a bunch of a$$H*l%s if you ask me!

My horse is out of there. In a nice safe barn in a big stall with lots of shavings and clean green pastures! FINALLY!
    07-06-2011, 03:23 PM
Mls, I agree with you. But sadly, there were no twisting of these words. I really wish there was.
    07-06-2011, 03:26 PM
Note, I am not saying this barn owner is a rational person, I am just addressing the one point of hoof treatments in the aisle.

You are just one person. What happens when every one is putting stuff on their horse's feet and leaving stains? Some of those products are actually corrosive to concrete and/or asphalt. Who has to pay to replace the aisle after a bunch of boarders could not be bothered to grab a trash feed bag or bring their own towel so they do not make a mess of the aisle?

One of the boarding barns near me is about as laid back as they come. Any trainer, any discipline, etc. They have signs about making sure you do not get thrush stuff and hoof polish and such on the barn aisle floor.

A little precaution goes a long way on the horse owner's part.
    07-06-2011, 08:12 PM
If someone is worried about floors a mat in a grooming area is a simple solution.
    07-06-2011, 09:13 PM
Do you owe them money? If not pull up with trailer and leave they can not make you pay for a month of board that you are not there. Honestly even if it is in the contract it will coast them more to take you to Cort to get it. So as long as you do not owe them money get out. Your horse comes first.
    07-06-2011, 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by natisha    
If someone is worried about floors a mat in a grooming area is a simple solution.
Right! Or the wash stall, you know? Thrush treatment is supposed to be applied to a clean, DRY hoof. But I took him in the wash stall anyway to alleviate the hassle over the cement. So I would walk my horse through the dirt into the wash stall, clean the hoof, dry it as best as possible and apply the medicine. Then walk him through the dirt again to his stall and pray not to drip anywhere and hope the dirt didn't sop up half the medication. Then I would spray down the stall, wind up the hose, shut off the lights.... really, I was a good boarder!

These people were just unreasonable. Someone said something about, if I don't pay the whole month I could possibly lose my horse. Like I said the lein was only if you were 2 months delinquent. And when I spoke to the attorney about it, she said no. That can't happen. I was clearly within the stipulations of the contract, and contracts, in almost all states, trump verbal or implied agreement (ie: pro-rata is only for incoming, hear-say care complaints).

Anyway, I moved my horse and we are happily cleaning feet and battling worms. I'm hoping he's back to normal quickly. I appreciate all the support and information, honestly. It was interesting to get views from people who owned barns and those who board. Its cool to see the diversity on these forums. Makes posting worth while.
    07-06-2011, 11:16 PM
Glad you got out and things are better. I have done all of it I have owned my own barn, borded, and ran someone eles's barn. As long as you pay what you own never fell bad about running. Your horse is most important.

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