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post #1 of 19 Old 11-05-2011, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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Desperately need some insight!

Okay so last year I was riding and working off my board at this barn. It was a barn in which the owner ( A ) had horses- but didn't know much about them so had someone else run the place ( my friend, J ).

So, to the point. I was riding this horse that was there on "foster", he was a PC horse but was severely underweight and they brought him in for hopes of leasing him out. This other girl and I both started to ride him and he was doing really well! A, asked us if we could start to work off riding him, I had no opposition to this- so we both started cleaning pastures weekly in exchange. I, then, brought in another friend who worked out a similar situation on a different trail horse she had- worked off her board and rode her 3x a week on trails. So now A is getting all of her pastures cleaned 2x a week and her horses ( all horses on property) fed by me twice a week- and other boarders rest of the week. Pretty good deal right? All for me getting to ride this amazing little pony 3x a week.

I did this throughout the whole summer. Up to temperatures in 106 degrees. Cleaning pastures was no easy task either, EVERYTHING was manual. Load buckets, drive truck, dump buckets. Lather, rinse and repeat. It was not fun nor was it easy. Feeding sucked too. I rarely complained though.

So summer was beginning to end and school was starting again and I was had to tell her that I could no longer ride him/work for her (plus the barn was an hour away). I sent her an email saying that in two weeks I would no longer be coming out and the reason why and apologized. Two weeks notice, I did give it- I have been working long enough to know to give one in ANY situation :) I found it weird that she hadn't said anything about it, at all. So I called my friend J, who is the barn manager and asked her if she had said anything and to my surprise- she didn't even know! I called the BO and she got REALLY upset because she NEVER received the email because the email that I sent it to (the one on the barns website) "she doesn't use anymore". There was a huge verbal altercation and some not so nice things were said. She told me that I was liable for feeding these horses and cleaning these pastures and she could come after me *laugh* me, you know, a boarder....not the barn owner... no way. I never signed a contract saying I was doing all of this, either.

By the way, she is not the easiest person to deal with. A lOT of the boarders tend to go through the barn manager rather than deal with her.

So I guess what I am trying to ask is...Was I in the wrong to not follow with a phone call? Should I have done it in person?

Basicallyhow would you of handled it?

Gahhh.

I can't believe you read all of that, what are you, crazy?!

The well-known saying “chestnut mare, beware!” is not completely without foundation. Some go further and add “chestnut Thoroughbred mare, beware!”
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post #2 of 19 Old 11-05-2011, 08:52 PM
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Absolutely you should have given your notice via telephone, and preferably face to face. I would not rely on email for anything important, it tends to not be dependable.
I would apologise to the BO, and hope that she doesnt terminate your boarding contract. I would also go out of my way to do the job for the next few weeks, either before or after school, even though it may be an inconvenience.
If it is an absolute impossibility for you to do this, (and I mean impossible, not just inconvenient) I would in the very least get a dependable other boarder to cover for you.
I am sure there is nothing legally she can come after you for, but it is the right thing for you to do.
Sorry, but you are in the wrong on this one. Good learning experience. :)
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Absolutely you should have given your notice via telephone, and preferably face to face. I would not rely on email for anything important, it tends to not be dependable.
I would apologise to the BO, and hope that she doesnt terminate your boarding contract. I would also go out of my way to do the job for the next few weeks, either before or after school, even though it may be an inconvenience.
If it is an absolute impossibility for you to do this, (and I mean impossible, not just inconvenient) I would in the very least get a dependable other boarder to cover for you.
I am sure there is nothing legally she can come after you for, but it is the right thing for you to do.
Sorry, but you are in the wrong on this one. Good learning experience. :)
It's pretty much all over with- I was just wondering what everyone else thought.

I do not board there, I was just riding that horse because she was simply allowing me to- in exchange for the work.

Thanks for your input though!

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Check 3/4 down your last big paragraph, it sounded as if you were a boarder.
I just can't seem to get the hang of 'quoting', lol, poor computer skills, oh well.
Anyway, good, you don't have to worry about your boarding contract ending then! :)
Yes, still, in the future, if anything is that important, I would always reccommend speaking to the person in question directly.
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I disagree, this is a business, its the busnesses responsibility to keep there contact info current. If they don't want email contact they shouldnt post a email.
You did the right thing, you sent notice in a form of contact chosen by the BO, later you followed up to be sure she knew. It isnt your fault the BO doenst keep up her correspondence. You don't owe her anything other than what is in the written contract, which from the sound of your post there wasnt one.

I see these same posts over and over and over, boarders with unwritten agreements of money/ work, and disagreements and hurt feelings arising because the two parties are too lazy to write it down.

Your not really even clear who to report to, there's an owner, then there's a barn manager, seems like people pick and choose who they deal with. SOunds like a royal goat rodeo.
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i disagree, this is a business, its the busnesses responsibility to keep there contact info current. If they don't want email contact they shouldnt post a email.
You did the right thing, you sent notice in a form of contact chosen by the BO, later you followed up to be sure she knew. It isnt your fault the BO doenst keep up her correspondence. You don't owe her anything other than what is in the written contract, which from the sound of your post there wasnt one.

I see these same posts over and over and over, boarders with unwritten agreements of money/ work, and disagreements and hurt feelings arising because the two parties are too lazy to write it down.

Your not really even clear who to report to, there's an owner, then there's a barn manager, seems like people pick and choose who they deal with. SOunds like a royal goat rodeo.
It goes without saying, I am glad that's over with. I am experienced in the business world and the horse world- but it still amazes me sometimes with what people try to get away with. As a business person it amazed me she would have horses coming in without contracts and not having people sign liabilities. Blew my mind.

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Check 3/4 down your last big paragraph, it sounded as if you were a boarder.
I just can't seem to get the hang of 'quoting', lol, poor computer skills, oh well.
Anyway, good, you don't have to worry about your boarding contract ending then! :)
Yes, still, in the future, if anything is that important, I would always reccommend speaking to the person in question directly.
Oops, I am a boarder- just not at her barn. Sorry for the confusion!

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Joe, while I agree that the BO sounds like she is inexperienced, unorganized, and perhaps unprofessional, it doesn't mean that the OP should also be such.
In any sort of 'job' situation, you should always act professional, even if dealing with an idiot.
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Joe, while I agree that the BO sounds like she is inexperienced, unorganized, and perhaps unprofessional, it doesn't mean that the OP should also be such.
In any sort of 'job' situation, you should always act professional, even if dealing with an idiot.
Which I believe I did, by providing an email AND giving a TWO week notice.

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post #10 of 19 Old 11-06-2011, 07:32 AM
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I have to agree with Skip. Notice should have been given in written form- an actual letter handed to a human, on the phone or face to face. The OP probably should've followed up by speaking to the barn manager as well. I work in a professional atmosphere and have for years. I would never give notice via email. It is unprofessional. Most places I've worked still expected written notice to be given.
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