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    02-22-2011, 08:07 PM
  #1
Weanling
Exclamation Do you think this stable would work out?...Having problems at currenct stable...

Right now I am at a very fancy barn with my horse. They have two indoor arenas, two large outdoor arenas, tack lockers, automatic waterers, wash racks, cross ties etc. Money is not an issue right now. I am moving my horse by the end of February. I already have a barn I can go to that I know is reputable. I also know people there who are very happy. They are also pretty fancy with tack lockers, cross ties etc. They don't have super high end stuff like at the other stable but that doesn't bother me at all because the owners there are snobs and charge me for everything.

The reason I am moving is the training there/the people. The lessons SUCK and they are the most expensive in the city. If you pay for a private they give you a semi-private. I haven't got anywhere with my horse, Lancer, for months. I have had my horse in full training there with the head trainer. Behind out backs they were letting people ride him, jumping him without our permission, and letting people use him in clinics. They were also abusing him and lying about what they were doing with him. They have done absolutely horribly things to him. They tied up one of his front legs for 1.5 hours and let him loose in an arena and then for another half hour they tied up his back leg. Like...???? They've also tied his head up and he has flipped over, they have also turned him out with side reins. If he took off while his trainer was riding him, he'd get is head pulled to his girth and would get majorly spurred. After that he would be scared out of his mind. If he didn't cooperate the would put a metal cavesson on him-he now has scars. They also locked him in a stall for a week-just cruel. I heard this from another boarder who saw it happen, sadly they didn't tell me until now, after the last incident. I stopped the training immediately. I then contacted people for references of this trainer(something I should have done way sooner). I heard a lot of reeeally bad things. I've learned a lot from this, but my horse was abused right under my nose.

Question 1) How do I go about leaving? This trainer has a reputation for stealing things and not letting people leave. They also make rumors and lies. I haven't told them that we are leaving...

Question 2) There is a trainer I really like but they don't have very nice stables. Do you think this stable would work out? There is an 11 stall barn with lots of space and a meeting room. There are no cross ties(doesn't bother me) but also no wash rack. I might show in the winter...sort of a problem. I is a hunter/jumper/dressage barn and they compete a lot. There are many trails on the property and they may be building cross country jumps. There is also a very large heated indoor arena. They are very outdoorsy and most of their horses live outside-not a problem. My horse could have a stall. Problem #2 is that there are no shelters outside...I live in southern Alberta, it can get pretty cold. I like to have my horse outdoors all summer...is that okay in rain and thunderstorms? Problem #3, their outdoor arenas are not fenced! I may be able to fund fencing depending on the price:_____? These people are very nice, the head trainer is taught by top level olympic riders and treats horses with utmost kindness.
     
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    02-22-2011, 09:06 PM
  #2
Banned
My advise would be to move now, as soon as you can, if this means that you have to pay for a notice period, then do so without using the facilities. When you move, move everything out at that time, prep for this by organizing your things and getting them together, give notice after your horse is in the trailer.

The nice things that you will miss, are nice things to a human, not to a horse. Your horse does not need for things to look pretty, he needs to be well cared for and safe.
     
    02-22-2011, 09:17 PM
  #3
Foal
Unless he's there under a contract that specifies otherwise, you can pack up and leave at any time. Just show up with a trailer, load the horse and your things, and go. Maybe leave a note or call them later if they weren't there when you got him.

As far as the new place, I don't like that there's no out door shelter, are there are least trees that the horses can stand under? If it's wide open, during thunder/lightning storms, you wouldn't want your horse to be hit by lightning. Really though, look around, look in the phone book at lots of different boarding places. Visit each one personally, ask for references, etc. If there are any signs of abuse or neglect, don't leave your horse there.

When I was looking at stables for my horse, about a year and a half ago, the first place I looked at let all the horses out at one time in one pasture, and not all of them got along. There were also emaciated cats on the property. The second place had a large pasture being built, but all the horses were turned out in 20x20 mud lots. There were 2 horses to a lot, and 2 lots. The 'barn' was a garage and the stalls were all on one side of the garage, and the 'isle way' was only about 4 feet wide. The place he's in now is decent, but I'm moving him soon, all the same, to a better place, that is closer.
     
    02-22-2011, 10:26 PM
  #4
Trained
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Originally Posted by Salila    
Unless he's there under a contract that specifies otherwise, you can pack up and leave at any time. Just show up with a trailer, load the horse and your things, and go. Maybe leave a note or call them later if they weren't there when you got him.
If they require you have a 30 day notice of leaving, if you leave and just pay the next month's board, I'm pretty sure that qualifies. It sucks to have to pay a bunch more just to pack up your horse and leave, but if it's necessary..

As for outdoor shelter, I agree: are there trees? Or even a hill they could hide behind? My first barn didn't have shelters outside, but the field was sloped and if it were windy and gross, they just stood down behind some trees and at the bottom of the hill.
     
    02-22-2011, 11:06 PM
  #5
Weanling
Omg poor you and your horse >< people can be so crazy! My advice is to find a new barn A.S.A.P don't tell them squat until the day you load your horse to move him to the other barn, that way they can't damage him any more then they already did. Pay w/e fees they ask on that day and get your butt outta there.
     
    02-23-2011, 02:42 AM
  #6
Weanling
From what I saw, there were no trees or shelters in the winter pastures(=smaller than the summer pastures but still roomy.) The winter pastures were sloped and they each have a big round bale feeder with a round bale. All the horses are blanketed or have a 2 inch fluffy winter coat. They are all well fed. Their water is heated and the fences are new wooden fences. They are all healthy and well fed. These horse's get the best hay. There's about 7 or 8 horses in a one acre pasture and then 4 or 5 in some half-acre pastures. The summer pastures are grassy and very large. There are many acres for all the horses. The horses are split up, geldings and mares as well as a few other pastures for other horses. I think the summer pastures do have trees and they are quite hilly. They grow lots of their own hay, but they also buy some. I'm not sure if the arenas are fenced...is that okay? There is an indoor arena though if I need it, and for the winter. I'm pretty sure their arenas are fenced though.

I've been around to other stables in the city, the people here are by far the best. They treat the animals the best and are very friendly and helpful. They will pick up my horse the minute we call them if we need so I know my horse can be picked up with about 1 hour's notice. I've been to the stables themselves and I don't like the coaching or horse training. The trainer at this barn trains with post-olympians. He does dressage and jumping. He has competed and excelled at grand prix level.

...so what do you think? I am going to go out again in the next few days, and I might take some pictures. I'll see if I can get a lesson. These are extremely nice people. Today I asked myself this question: "Can people who treat horses so kindly actually excel in horse sport?". I can't believe how much mistreatment of horses and exploitation I have seen. The fact that I asked this question to myself shows something...Sorry I turned this into a kind of rant.
     
    02-23-2011, 07:03 AM
  #7
Foal
They don't have super high end stuff like at the other stable but that doesn't bother me at all because the owners there are snobs and charge me for everything

How do you expect people to make money? Just because you board there they should do everything for free? Where do you think all that "high end" stuff comes from? I can't stand it when boarders think we should do everything for them for free....Barn owners time is worth nothing?? Im sure they will be glad to see you go...
     
    02-23-2011, 11:27 AM
  #8
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by SPhorsemanship    
I heard this from another boarder who saw it happen, sadly they didn't tell me until now, after the last incident. I stopped the training immediately. I then contacted people for references of this trainer(something I should have done way sooner). I heard a lot of reeeally bad things. I've learned a lot from this, but my horse was abused right under my nose.
One word of advice - throw out anything you have 'heard' and only go on what you have seen.

As far as leaving, give notice and do it. You do not have to say why.

"Dear Barn Owner -

This is written 30 day notice that I will be removing Lancer from XYZ Stable as of February 28, 2011."

Signed - Lancer's owner

If you are concerned about anything going missing, clean out your locker prior to handing notice over. If you are REALLY concerned, pack up your tack locker, have a trailer come in and leave your notice with your final check, load the horse and leave. No drama. Done.
     
    02-23-2011, 11:36 AM
  #9
Foal
I completely agree with mls.


Also, at least the horses are fed well and are given heavy blankets in the winter, and in the summer, if the pastures are hilly and have trees, they should be alright. I suggest getting your horse there as soon as possible.

Myself, I would even consider suing the stable your horse is currently in, for damages done to your horse, both physical and mental, and for improper use of him, where you said that they were letting other people ride him and work with him without your permission. That seriously bothers me when people do that.
     
    02-23-2011, 12:06 PM
  #10
Showing
Not being fancy doesn't mean they don't have a great care! If you current contract tells anything about advance notice (like 2 weeks or 1 month) then send it to the BO as certified mail now. If not, tell them you are moving and just move on.
     

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