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        03-20-2013, 06:47 PM
    Does this sound possible?!

    Ok, so my husband and I are buying property to build our dream barn! It is a 100x200 building with 15 12x12 stalls, a tack room, feed room, wash rack, 78x160 indoor arena, 40x68 shop, with an upstairs 40x68 apartment with a balcony/deck. I got my first quote of $230,000 excluding the electric, plumbing, and drywall. Then I post an ad on Craigslist just saying I was looking for contractors and/or Amish to quote my building. Someone named Kelly, at green structures, or living structures, or living green structures (I have heard all 3!), texts me saying he/she has a crew and can build what I am looking for. Sent her my plans and she quotes me $45,000 for materials, $20,000 for labor. That's $65,000 plumbing, electric, and drywall INCLUDED! I was very doubtful, so I asked for references. He/she tells me they built the Texas Roadhouse here in town, and that they have worked on many barns and even airplane hangers. So then she gives me a phone number for someone locally that they did a barn remodel for, I called him and he was very nice, said that they worked good hard and quick, and that he highly recommends them.

    Now, my big thing is 1. I have met a lot of "shady" people on Craigslist, and have learned not to believe anything that sounds too good to be true! They did tell me that final pricing depends on the exact area and city you build in, so the $65,000 was a rough estimate. But still, should I run for the hills, does this sound AT ALL possible?!

    Thanks in advance guys!
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        03-20-2013, 06:51 PM
    That sounds awfully low, and if they built the Texas Roadhouse what they DIDN'T tell you is those buildings are pretty much prefab. Sure, the concrete and rebar have to be laid for the pad on which to put the building, but it's not like they're building it the same as a stick built.

    If you want a real contractor, you're going to have to pay for one. $65,000 sounds cheap, but when they run off after half assed doing your job and take your money with them, it'll be even more expensive to get a licensed contractor to fix their mess. Do it right the first time, and ask to see licenses. All licensed professionals will be more than happy to provide that to you.
        03-20-2013, 07:00 PM
    That's kind of the way I feel. The guy I called that had used them did say that the have a warranty or a guarantee and they did beautiful work, that nothing has fallen apart and that he will be re-hiring them this summer. I'm just so unsure. He invited us to his barn, so I will be able to see their work. As long as they actually exist!
        03-20-2013, 07:04 PM
    He might also be in on the scam. Just something to keep in mind.
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        03-20-2013, 07:07 PM
    That's exactly what we thought. Ugh!
        03-20-2013, 07:08 PM
    Green Broke
    Can I move in when it is finished?
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        03-20-2013, 07:19 PM
    Sounds like a scam. That is very low!
        03-20-2013, 07:53 PM
    Any contractor is going to have a registered DBA and such to be legit, I would get that especially if they gave you different names, and whatever other I of they got (scammers will probably drop off the face of the planet by this point). If they are doing alot of work, there's going to be more than 2 people who have done business with them. Maybe try consumer or other places, or check bbb ratings.

    I have found some very good contractors that seem like they are too cheap to be true, and done good work (though 230k to 65k is a much more significant difference than I have found) but I would be careful nonetheless, as this is going to be a very big investment, not just some shed out in the backyard.
        03-20-2013, 09:20 PM
    We are having a small 36x36 barn build this spring. I have spent the last 18 months getting quotes from a variety of contractors and businesses. All were well known and all came withing a few thousand dollars of one another. One business however, kept quoting me on a building that was structurally different. For example, we are building a pole barn. Their building was about two thousand dollars less, but had half the number of poles and trusses, so essentially half the structural materials. Check carefully on the structural details when comparing quotes and make sure you have these details included in any contract you sign. Also, make sure itis made contractually clear what is expected of you in terms of insurance, site preparation, materials to supply and garbage disposal. These details can make a big difference. We didn't choose the cheapest company, but the one who specializes in what we want, has been in business for over 15 years and provides lots of details in the contract.

    The difference between the two quotes you mentioned sounds suspicious. First off, I couldn't build my little 36x36 building with stalls, power, water, concrete and insulation for $65,000. My quotes were closer to $110-120,000 for a much much smaller building than yours and didnt include stalls or stall hardware. The original quote sounds more realistic for what you described.

    Take your time and do your homework very carefully.

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