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  • Do I have to throw out horse feed if a mouse got into the grain bin?
  • Does poison end up in chicken eggs

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    01-21-2012, 01:05 PM
  #21
Trained
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Originally Posted by Celeste    
I have been told that free range chickens will kill rats themselves. Does anybody know if this is true?
I wouldn't be surprised, I've watched them kill smaller snakes and lizards, so I don't know why they wouldn't. I haven't had a rat or mouse around here in so long, my chickens haven't ever seen one though.
     
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    01-21-2012, 01:08 PM
  #22
Trained
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
I use free range chickens in the same manner, the horse gets textured feed, enough grain passes through that the chickens scatter the manure everywhere, combined with fly predators I have almost no flies or ticks.
.....afaid of poison. Keeping inside a pipe does no good the rats will carry pieces out with them. I am afraid it would end up in my food supply through tthe chicken eggs somehow.
I've always been afraid that a poisoned mouse or rat might end up in the dog yard and of course, the JRT's would attack and kill it, so they'd end up poisoned too. The concern about the eggs never crossed my mind, but that's a really good point too.
     
    01-21-2012, 01:21 PM
  #23
Green Broke
We had a westie.

Westie was primarily just a house pet but just having him round the yard occassionaly delt with our rat problem.
     
    01-21-2012, 01:22 PM
  #24
Yearling
Our rat problem the rats are almost a foot or more long! Plus traps don't work outside, no other animals go any were near the horse house, the dog stays by the house and the cats only go behind away from the road. I told the owner of the barn they deal with the rats how ever they want or I'll, they caught one and gave up. The rats always eat all the bait none or very little comes out one or a half pelt won't do much unless you'r only a few ozs. Plus losing one horse to the wild life is more than enough.

Like I said someone mentioned exlax dehydrating them and it is safe around other animals, that or beer because they can't burp so they died of gas build up.
     
    01-21-2012, 02:08 PM
  #25
Green Broke
I caught a mouse in my feed can I left the lid off, I put the mouse out in the corral with the cat, kinda clue him in on his job. The cat just yawned at the running mouse, but the roosters tore off after him. I imagine if they were a bit faster, or the barn foundation was a little farther away they woulda got him.
     
    01-21-2012, 02:14 PM
  #26
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
I've always been afraid that a poisoned mouse or rat might end up in the dog yard and of course, the JRT's would attack and kill it, so they'd end up poisoned too. The concern about the eggs never crossed my mind, but that's a really good point too.
Pretty much, I go through all the trouble to have free range chickens that don't get fed drugs and hormones, kinda defeat the purpose if I introduce rat poison to their diet. And yep it will get there, I had baits in the barn, where the chickens can't go and I saw pieces of it out side a small tunnel under the barn foundation. So I know a mouse carried it outside. Don't we have enough toxic pollution without purposly introducing more ? Especially when there are other less hazardous methods that are just as effective ?
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    01-21-2012, 02:22 PM
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Repeating mouse trap.
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    01-21-2012, 02:22 PM
  #28
Trained
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
Pretty much, I go through all the trouble to have free range chickens that don't get fed drugs and hormones, kinda defeat the purpose if I introduce rat poison to their diet. And yep it will get there, I had baits in the barn, where the chickens can't go and I saw pieces of it out side a small tunnel under the barn foundation. So I know a mouse carried it outside. Don't we have enough toxic pollution without purposly introducing more ? Especially when there are other less hazardous methods that are just as effective ?
Totally agree Joe, I do the same with my chickens, let them free range and no drugs. I'd be furious if they got into something that came through in the eggs and I couldn't be free range/organic (though not certified I'm stricter than fed regs).
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    01-21-2012, 03:59 PM
  #29
Trained
My chickens aren't totally loose, but they are fed only safe, healthy feed. I sure don't want them poisoned, especially since we eat the eggs. I do have some free range chickens that visit from the next farm over. They come to clean up any feed the horses may spill.
     
    01-21-2012, 05:24 PM
  #30
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
first, you need to take the horse breaking in to the feed more seriously, you can kill or permanently lame your horse this way.
Second, galvanized steel trashcans with bungee cord lids are cheep, last and work.
On the bright side sooner or later the snakes will discover the fertile hunting grounds.
I would love to get metal bins, but as I've said, I just can't afford it.
Here they're $42 for a 55L bin. It will fit one bag of feed in it. I need 6 bins to fit my feed. That will cost me $252 VS the $70 I paid for the plastic. Just can't afford it.

I don't need to take my horse breaking in to the feed more seriously. It was MY FRIENDS PONY that broke the gate to get in. That pony is a very naughty little piggy sometimes, and he is no longer at my paddock. My horse is there alone. A friend accidentally left the gate to the feed open one night and my horse never went in there. I can't even entice him in there no matter now hard I try. I only said IF my horse wants to, he could. But that's a very big IF.
I do realise that he could, horses do what they feel like when they feel like doing it and things they didn't do before, they could decide to do now. This is why I'm hesitant to put down any poison.

It's middle of summer here and there's a carpet snake that lives in the garage next to the feed shed. I don't think he's doing his job :( In fact come to think of it, I've only seen one snake all Summer.

I wish I could just poison the little jerks, it would make it all easier for me to just throw it down and then dispose of any bodies I find.
I might try the peppermint and see how that works for deterring them.
     

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