Final straw...advice needed from Barn owners - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Barns, Boarding, and Farms > Barn Maintenance

Final straw...advice needed from Barn owners

This is a discussion on Final straw...advice needed from Barn owners within the Barn Maintenance forums, part of the Barns, Boarding, and Farms category

    Like Tree9Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        09-05-2011, 07:42 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    She LIED to you and you didn't boot her off the property that very second? Where is your spine, woman?

    Suck it up, put on your big girl panties, go dig around in your closet and under the bed for your spine, then let her know that she no longer has a job, and exactly WHY.

    Do you somehow think if you tell her some stupid, banal reason for letting her go that she WON'T turn it around on you? Get a clue; she's lazy, a liar, and will of course try to make it all your fault, regardless of the reason you give her for firing her.

    I can't even believe you'd consider putting up with with her and just 'dealing with it'. When did 'nice' become synonymous with 'cowardly'?
    Wow tell me how you really feel lol!

    I did not fire her on the spot for one and one reason only....I myself had not witnessed the event...(granted I doubt my husband would lie to me about her taking off for 3 hrs)...but it was hear-say....I won't go in to detail about the words exchanged between us...so sorry you can not call me cowardly or know what size of panties I had on at the time.....as you do not know the what words etc was exchanged in that confrontation.

    The only reason I would put up with her is due to the fact of trying to find help just for weekends is very hard (or at all for that matter)....and I do want to stay w the system now of having my weekends free. She does work well w the horses Il give her that much, its just she seems to think certain tasks are beneath her so to speak, and either does them half ass or avoids them all together....these tasks arent for the well being of the horse per say, but are jobs we do to keep the barn clean, and organized, and if not done 2 days in a row, can def make more work for other staff.

    I do know that she wont be w me much longer, as I truly wouldn't be able to put up with it for the long haul. I just know how fast one person can wreck the reputation of a barn in our area....it took almost 3 yrs for a local stable to shake off the rumors one disgruntled worked spread...they lost 15 boarders as a result, and also found it very hard to attract anyone else.....
    That being said, I do know I will let her go, it just a matter of when.....and yes it will be sooner then later trust me.

    Shutupjoe...The amount of hours my full time girl does (m-th) is more then enough to pay off her board trust me...she is the type of worker that goes above and beyond...her duties go beyond just cleaning barn etc during the week. She rides and helps train many of my horses when I can't find the time, she coaches some of the boarders here (unpaid), she even drove combine for us the other day when we needed an extra body. Trust me she is that Gem of a worker that now a days is hard to find...I keep telling her she is never allowed to leave
    She also needs money to live lol....so she works a weekend job elsewhere to help pay bills.....so I don't think I need to make her pick up a day on the weekend when she already works more then enough hrs during the week.

    Phillip....she is a teen (17 turning 18).

    I have scheduled her to come in for tomorrow at which time Il be letting her go....she is a part time employee, I don't have to give her any notice.....as both my full time worker and my self had a discussion about it today and we both know we wouldn't be able to put up w it, as the longer she has been here the worse it has gotten...even after having been told to pick up boot straps. So I will be back to working 7 days a week again until I can find a replacement.....sigh

    What happened to the days when people actually worked hard, and had good work ethics
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        09-05-2011, 07:47 PM
      #12
    Banned
    I'd fire her immediately, you really don't even need to get into the whys - just tell her that you no longer need her services and she should leave your property and not return.
    It's something that you are going to have to get used to, as you run a business.
    BaileyJo likes this.
         
        09-05-2011, 07:57 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Whys are what get you in trouble, In Virginia there are a whole list of reasons you can't fire someone, BUT it is perfectly legal to fire someone for no reason at all, At the end of her work day just tell her her services are no longer required. Period, end of discussion, no ifs whys or buts, It isnt relevant. Don't even say anything else, other than please leave now. Then walk away. You have to be ready and willing to fire someone before you should hire someone. I can't imagine putting up with it for more than a week much less 6 months,
         
        09-05-2011, 08:02 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Now that I have a better understanding why not try asking around your boarders to see if someone wants to work off board?
         
        09-05-2011, 08:04 PM
      #15
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maverick101    
    I just know how fast one person can wreck the reputation of a barn in our area....it took almost 3 yrs for a local stable to shake off the rumors one disgruntled worked spread...they lost 15 boarders as a result, and also found it very hard to attract anyone else.....
    I find it quite alarming that a barn lost 15 boarders as a result of one person. There were obviously deeper issues. Here's how it goes for me: If I'm happy I stay, if I'm not I leave and while I do listen to what others have to say, most of it stays at that. Obviously these boarders were more than unhappy and for more than just one reason.
         
        09-05-2011, 08:07 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    I will get into the whys...I do think people need to hear what skills they are lacking esp when they are younger, I would hope it makes them better workers somewhere down the line.....that may not be the case, but I do know if I was ever fired (never have been in my lifetime) Id want a reason why.

    I guess that's why I gave her the benefit of the doubt for so long, figured she may shape up if pointed out w constructive criticism what she wasn't doing properly.
    But the more I think about it the more I do need to let her know why she is being let go, as jst sending her on her merry way isnt helping anyone in the grand scheme of things.
         
        09-05-2011, 08:10 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maverick101    
    I will get into the whys...I do think people need to hear what skills they are lacking esp when they are younger, I would hope it makes them better workers somewhere down the line.....that may not be the case, but I do know if I was ever fired (never have been in my lifetime) Id want a reason why.
    TRUE THAT!!!

    Reasons are important. Whether the worker has been a great one or a crappy one, we all deserve a reason(s) as to why we're being let go. How can one ever expect an individual to improve if they don't know what they did wrong?

    Oh sure, they probably have a pretty good idea, but they need to hear it from the employer.
         
        09-05-2011, 08:12 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jamzimm101987    
    I find it quite alarming that a barn lost 15 boarders as a result of one person. There were obviously deeper issues. Here's how it goes for me: If I'm happy I stay, if I'm not I leave and while I do listen to what others have to say, most of it stays at that. Obviously these boarders were more than unhappy and for more than just one reason.
    I will not go into detail about this barn or the particular person and what rumors were spread....but I know the barn Owner personally, and what this ex employee said happened would make you get up and go.....
         
        09-05-2011, 08:18 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maverick101    
    I just know how fast one person can wreck the reputation of a barn in our area....it took almost 3 yrs for a local stable to shake off the rumors one disgruntled worked spread...they lost 15 boarders as a result, and also found it very hard to attract anyone else.....
    Rumors are always a risk, and difficult or impossible to control.
    However, earlier you said "her not being able to finish a simple task of watering our outdoor horses."
    Having one person going around saying you're "mean" or whatever for firing her is a lot better than having ALL your boarders going around saying their horses don't have water (or whatever other tasks she's skipping out on).
    Remember, her work (or lack of it) reflects directly on YOUR reputation.
         
        09-05-2011, 08:22 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Thinking tasks are beneath you can sometimes be cured with some constructive criticism, but the SECOND that water buckets are not refilled is when I would fire them on the spot. That's when it becomes dangerous for your horses to have her around, even if she does work well with them. I'm glad you're going to let her go. For me it would be worth it to work the extra hours and know my horses are well taken care of, especially having their water. I really hope you find someone to replace her soon so that you can get your time off again at some point in the future.

    And don't worry about her spreading rumors, it happens in the horse world all the time and especially when there is a disgruntled employee involved.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Ugh, barn owners... luvmyperch Horse Boarding 20 07-26-2010 07:31 PM
    Calling all barn owners . reveriesgirly Barn Maintenance 6 02-20-2010 08:11 PM
    Help + Advice needed on STRAW!! goldrushx Barn Maintenance 1 12-28-2009 02:40 AM
    Barn owners Spyder Barn Maintenance 6 02-16-2009 11:23 AM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:01 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0