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    10-10-2013, 08:55 AM
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Foal
Finishing the Barn - need advice

Ok, so my major project this winter is to hopefully finish the barn. I have some brick work done in the front aisle of the barn. I'm going to do the joint compound this weekend so that the bricks are set. Then next weekend I'll do another section, set them, rinse, wash and repeat until the whole first 9' x 60ish' is finished. Then I was looking into some type of rubber flooring for the other half of the barn where the cross ties are going to be. Any suggestions??

After the floors are done, I'm going to start inside walls and ceiling. I was looking into the water/mold resistant drywall - but have been getting mixed reviews about using it in a barn. The stalls are outside in the run in shed, so the horses will only be near it when they're in the cross tie section. Do you think it should be ok? The roof is metal sheeting and we were thinking about putting up insulation before making a ceiling, but no insulation behind the walls. Right now the walls are OSB and 2 x 4s. I want it to look nice and finished, but am on a budget. The drywall is actually cheaper than OSB boards.

What would you put up and why?

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    10-10-2013, 09:13 AM
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Foal
Photobucket won't let me upload my photos for some reason and my original post won't let me edit so here are the photos, I hope this works since I've never done it this way

First photo is the new window in the hay/feed room. Second is before the brick work, 3rd is starting to lay bricks, 4th is the hay room done and 5th is the feed room done as well.
     
    10-10-2013, 11:47 AM
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Showing
I hope there won't be any horses walking on that checkerboard. Even if it is cement it is too slippery for a wet hoof. Most barn areas with cement is bushed with a coarse brush to leave it textured for grip.
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    10-10-2013, 12:49 PM
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Yearling
Unless you live in a area where you have no frost or real serious wet... I would not "set" the bricks...let them move as the ground "breathes" and moves with the seasons.
Ever wonder why driveways crack....you basically have a driveway scenario, except you didn't level the base first, sorry.

As for insulating.... ceiling sounds great. It will deaden sound and keep the heat out and warmth in...
Why not do the walls...keeps heat out or heat in same as it would cooler temperatures...do so with caution though.

Remember you will need a great deal of draft-less ventilation if you seal this barn up so solid...your walls and ceiling are going to drip moisture from the contained condensation.
I would put in a window with a thick & heavier screening material in the feed room. Rodents and birds are going to love you with the new warm & dry environment you created... hay also needs to breathe even in baled form.

It is very pretty with the checkerboard flooring but when wet those concrete blocks become slippery and ummm...grow mold, even more slippery.
The barn when you weather-tite it even with 1 or 2 horses in it is going to have excessive moisture trapped... a true breeding ground for mold spores and possible bacteria...just be careful you don't create a unhealthy "pretty" environment your horses will be forced to breathe.

Enjoy your project.
     
    10-10-2013, 02:13 PM
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Foal
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
I hope there won't be any horses walking on that checkerboard. Even if it is cement it is too slippery for a wet hoof. Most barn areas with cement is bushed with a coarse brush to leave it textured for grip.
The horses will only have access under supervision to the cross tie areas that will be rubber matted - as stated in the OP. I've been in the horse world for a while and will never use even brushed concrete where my horses would be walking let alone brick or something smooth.
     
    10-10-2013, 02:23 PM
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Foal
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Originally Posted by horselovinguy    
Unless you live in a area where you have no frost or real serious wet... I would not "set" the bricks...let them move as the ground "breathes" and moves with the seasons.
Ever wonder why driveways crack....you basically have a driveway scenario, except you didn't level the base first, sorry.

The base was leveled as well as it could be and since the photos they've been tamped leveled as well. It was while we were still working on things that I snapped pictures. I know lots of people in the area that have brick drive ways and barn floors (feed/hay/tack rooms) that have them set without an issue. They would be set with polymeric sand, not cement.

As for insulating.... ceiling sounds great. It will deaden sound and keep the heat out and warmth in...
Why not do the walls...keeps heat out or heat in same as it would cooler temperatures...do so with caution though.

I wanted to do insulated ceilings for the sound - it's a metal roof and can get highly loud/annoying. Wouldn't have been my choice if I had built the barn.

Remember you will need a great deal of draft-less ventilation if you seal this barn up so solid...your walls and ceiling are going to drip moisture from the contained condensation.
I would put in a window with a thick & heavier screening material in the feed room. Rodents and birds are going to love you with the new warm & dry environment you created... hay also needs to breathe even in baled form.

The barn still has and will have openings. The ceiling will not block the vents that are at the top of the walls (neither will the walls) and there are windows. It's not going to be sealed tight by any means - I just want to finish it off better than it is. There are holes/cracks in the walls from the previous owners, some walls are starting to bow and I don't like all of the nooks and crannies that have been inviting spider webs. They're a fire hazard.

Also, we already have mice and birds...it's a barn


It is very pretty with the checkerboard flooring but when wet those concrete blocks become slippery and ummm...grow mold, even more slippery.
The barn when you weather-tite it even with 1 or 2 horses in it is going to have excessive moisture trapped... a true breeding ground for mold spores and possible bacteria...just be careful you don't create a unhealthy "pretty" environment your horses will be forced to breathe.

If you read the OP the horses will only be in the barn on occassion on cross ties. I built my stalls on the other side of the barn wall in the run in shed for ventilation and other reasons. Also, the building gets very little moisture in it at all how it is now - so what would change? It was the previous owner's hay storage building.

Again, I'm not trying to "weather-tite" it. I'm just trying to make it more finished. I was looking into drywall for it's fire protection vs OSB that will light up like the 4th of July. Also, the brick pavers that I used are going into the driest part of the barn - that's why that side was chosen for hay/feed/tack.


Enjoy your project.
I will enjoy my project, thank you.

Now...does anyone else have relevant advice to making the building seem more finished?
     

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