Have You Ever Heard of a Rule Like This?

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    04-23-2011, 01:26 PM
Question Have You Ever Heard of a Rule Like This?

So, I've been at this barn for over a year now, and just found out this rather odd rule. Though it is not written down, nor in my board agreement, the BO is saying that no one is allowed to ride horses other than their own if they are not in lessons or working it off. This came up because my mom started taking lessons instead of me, and I was riding a horse for a friend with permission from her and her parents. Then the BO told me I was not allowed to ride my FRIEND'S horse because "there are plenty of other girls who are in lessons and working to ride him." She told this to my mother, to which my mother said something along the lines of "but my daughter has permission from the owner of the horse." The BO said too bad. So, apparently, if I ever wanted to have a friend of mine come out and ride my horse that would not be allowed. ??? Has anyone ever heard of a rule like this? Shouldn't I be allowed to choose who can and cannot ride my horse? The BO said that it was a liability thing, but everyone who comes out to the barn has to sign a waver, so that should not be a problem, right? And I was thinking about it, if it was a liability issue then wouldn't every barn have that rule? Please let me know if I'm being ridiculous thinking that the horse owner should have control over who rides their horse.

After I did talk to the horse owner, and she had not been informed of the "rule" either, and thought it was weird.

I have let other girls at the barn ride my horse while the BO watched, she never said a thing, and now she's saying that was against the rules. It's sounding to me like this is more a personal attack against me, rather than a barn rule.
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    04-23-2011, 04:29 PM
Your BO needs to get a liability SIGN, and post it where everyone can see it. I think that relieves you of having to do the waivers. Sounds like she is just one of the more paranoid type... I can understand that she is just being smart and doesn't want to get pulled into a big mess with people trying to sue her for an injury on horseback. But that usually happens with people who don't know horses and are shocked when a family member gets hurt and want to sue. Usually, people who actually have some background with horses don't sue easily. It's kind of a mess, but I can see where she's coming from. Then again, if she's going to make it a rule she needs to make sure she's understood and stick to it, not make it conditional. Maybe its time to look for a barn with a more reasonable owner...I would be a little annoyed if someone was telling me who could ride my horse.
    04-23-2011, 04:56 PM
Green Broke
This seems odd. If you have permission to ride the other girls horse, get it in writing. Your BO shouldn't have any control over peoples own personal horses.

If it was a rule for a school horse....this would be more understandable.
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    04-23-2011, 04:59 PM
I have never heard of a rule like that, it is up to the owner of the horse who rides it.

Does this rule mean that the BO is letting her students ride your friends horse and she was not aware of that? I would be livid about this.
    04-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Signs and liability waivers protect you more than not having them, but they don't mean you still can't get sued.

I would imagine she is worried about the liability. Maybe you could ask her if she would be willing to arrange something where you would have it in writing for your friend to ride your horse to make her feel like she has more protection?

I've never heard of this before. Every rider at my barn has to sign a waiver (and we have signs posted). Minors have to wear helmets. Otherwise so long as the owner of the horse gives permission, those choices are left up to the owners. Weird.
    04-23-2011, 09:06 PM
Originally Posted by AlexS    
I have never heard of a rule like that, it is up to the owner of the horse who rides it.

Does this rule mean that the BO is letting her students ride your friends horse and she was not aware of that? I would be livid about this.
I'm not really sure, but at the last schooling show the BO allowed a girl to ride this horse in a class without letting the owner know. I also rode the horse but asked the owners first. I do know of a time that the BO had allowed students to ride a horse when the owner said no one could ride him. I just happened to be there when the owner said no and when the owner found out the BO wasn't listening (not pretty).

SD: Why wouldn't it? I believe in the liability wavers the BO has it specifically says that you cannot sue her or the barn. Would someone still be able to sue?

We were already moving my gelding to a different barn that is closer to trails so my mom could ride him, and were planning to bring Dulcinea to the barn in question when she comes home. We aren't now. I'm fully moving barns now, as I cannot deal with being at such a strict barn with the rules constantly changing. It's kind of driving me nuts.
    04-23-2011, 10:38 PM
As a barn owner I can tell you this is not a common rule and is over-bearing IMO, but I do understand her point of view. I have signs posted every where and I liability waivers available in the tackroom for their guests to sign. Any guest caught without a waiver on file, the boarder is fined $50 and this IS in my barn rules and boarding contract. My state's liability statute is also at the bottom of all my forms.

A boarder can do whatever they want with their own horse unless its instructing and then they have to pay an arena fee and it is subject to my approval. Sorry but no one is going to make money off of my blood, sweat and tears without ME getting a share. My name and business reputation is on the line whether it's me teaching or not so I may step-in there.

I suspect the barn owner is just being stingy. She is trying to gain more lesson, leasing and training customers. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" so to speak. If you ride a boarder's horse, you could technically be "stealing" a training ride fee from her.
    04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
^^^ That sounds like something she would do. Then again, she hasn't ever had a problem with owners letting other people ride their horses, until me. Apparently, according to other boarders and lessonees, the BO has disliked me for a long time. Sucks for me I guess, she's just loosing more money by alientating me.

Thanks everyone for the input! It's nice knowing that I'm not a total idiot in thinking it was a weird rule haha :)
    04-24-2011, 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by starlinestables    
I suspect the barn owner is just being stingy. She is trying to gain more lesson, leasing and training customers. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" so to speak. If you ride a boarder's horse, you could technically be "stealing" a training ride fee from her.

If the BO is using a boarder's horse for "lessons" then she better get permission.

That is a total breech of trust between the horse's owner and the BO.

What if I went up to ride my horse to train and find him totally off the aids and tired. That would be stealing my time with my horse plus I could get sued should the person riding my horse have a fall.
    04-24-2011, 02:35 PM
Green Broke
There have been some issues come up at barns where someone will say that they have permission to ride X horse and really don't and it then leads to all sort of headaches when the owner of the horse finds out. If this particular BO has ever gone through this, they may have decided that they were just going to make an across the board rule that folks can only ride the horses they own to curb any of the drama. However, if this is the case she should make an addendum to her boarding contracts and have everyone read and sign off on the new rule.

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