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post #11 of 25 Old 05-27-2012, 12:59 PM
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Looks great!
Cows can jump from a running start, but dairy cows often wont because of their udders getting in the way. They also need a running start, because they are not very good at picking up their feet. It's proven that they can only lift up their legs to the height of their knee.

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No by your drawing that doesn't make sense. The only reason to have a paddock is so the horses can't go in the pasture, So if the pasture horses need access to run in you couldn't really use the paddock to keep a horse seperated as you have it drawn.
Okay. I don't understand what you're having trouble seeing? The idea of the dry lot is that I can shut the animals in if needed. The 'run-in' is basically a three sided shelter, and where I would expect the animals to take shelter in poor weather. What I'm proposing is rotating the pastures, and when the animals have access to one pasture, leaving that particular gate (shows in gray on my drawing, I didn't mark it) open, so that they can come and go out of the dry lot as needed for water and shelter, and still have access to pasture.

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I just noticed how small your pastures are. I would just make 2 pastures and rotate or 1 large one and suppliment with hay when needed. You really need 2 acres per horse and I would guess a cow is about the same so I doubt that they will have enough forage and still need hay.
I was expecting to have to supplement some hay, considering that the entire property is only 5 acres! That being said, grass does grow very well here. Also, the size of the paddocks is somewhat negotiable at this point, specifics haven't been discussed as this is still months away.
I added the idea of a third paddock in case the cow and my horse don't get along, but if they're turned out together, then I would only want two (larger) pastures.

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The fence you posted is OK (especially if you plan on keeping goats), but I wonder how expensive it is. And BTW, some cows have nasty habit jumping over the fences (I've seen it, and have to say they are amazing in clearing out fences from stand still).
Is there a better fencing option that you would use? I'm very ope to suggestion on this. I just want something permanent, sturdy and functional.

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I added the idea of a third paddock in case the cow and my horse don't get along, but if they're turned out together, then I would only want two (larger) pastures.
I would still have the third pasture.. That way you can really rotationally graze and don't overgraze your little pasture. Also, if you want to, you can make gates between the three pastures... That way the horse and cow can really run if they feel like it at times. Also, if you wanted to, you could keep one mowed and use it as a little outdoor grass arena and the other two be pastures.

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Looks great!
Cows can jump from a running start, but dairy cows often wont because of their udders getting in the way. They also need a running start, because they are not very good at picking up their feet. It's proven that they can only lift up their legs to the height of their knee.
What height fencing would you suggest? The one I posted would be about 4.5' I think? I haven't had a chance to look at the heights available for that mesh yet. My father's yard is fenced in it, and it's 6', but mostly everywhere I've read online says it's only available in 4'?? I'll have to go check.

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I would still have the third pasture.. That way you can really rotationally graze and don't overgraze your little pasture. Also, if you want to, you can make gates between the three pastures... That way the horse and cow can really run if they feel like it at times. Also, if you wanted to, you could keep one mowed and use it as a little outdoor grass arena and the other two be pastures.
There will be other places I'm able to ride, on trails and there's enough arenas in the area that I'm sure I'll be able to negotiate something.

I do like the suggestion of in-between-y gates though.

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Here is also a more detailed diagram of the barn/outbuilding- I'm open to suggestions on that too. At this point I'm thinking it may be best to scale down the stall, as it won't be used often.
Personally I would want a gate from the dry lot to the outside, not just from the lot to the pastures. Unless you were planning to put a gate in the cross tie area? Otherwise it looks like a good use of space.
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Personally I would want a gate from the dry lot to the outside, not just from the lot to the pastures. Unless you were planning to put a gate in the cross tie area? Otherwise it looks like a good use of space.
Haha yes I was planning to put a gate to the outside of the dry lot as well! I forgot to draw it in! Thanks for pointing that out.

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Is there a better fencing option that you would use? I'm very ope to suggestion on this. I just want something permanent, sturdy and functional.
I myself have 3 board (also around 4.5 ft), but I'm not sure if that's something that works for cows (I only have horses). And it's not the cheapest either (the cheapest is the electric one). Those people keeping both species often have the fence similar to what you posted or wire one (not sure why - I never asked really). I hope people with more experience with both will give their insights. :)

BTW, my pastures are on small side too (I have a main one, that is not lush, and 3 small ones with lots of grass I move my horses in for several hours/day).

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each pasture should have a gate to the dry area, which is where I place my water troughs, salt licks , and feed hay. Your three pastures are good for rotation. I would say a 5' fence with maybe one lateral . The wire fence looked nice.
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