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    09-14-2010, 03:47 PM
  #21
Yearling
It isn't dramatic. Horses escape every time someone forgets to turn the fencing back on. Tenacity escaped once, but luckly stayed within stable grounds. It's usually the TBs.

Thanks for the suggestions

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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
It may have nothing to do with it.

Get ye a tester. Test before the pole and after the pole. That will give you an idea if the pole is the cause or not.

There are so many things that can make an electric fence not work. If the ground is not moist enough near the grounding rod system is one of the most common issues. Lack of a good ground there will make the whole fence not work correctly.


Like I posted before, go to the web site of several of the electric tape manufacturers. They have pretty comprehensive installation manuals that include 'do this' and 'do not do this'.


Though I think a good fence is a pretty important thing. I think you are being some what dramatic in saying it is imminent that the horses will get out any moment.

Edit to add - quick type into Google got me This. (I admit, I did not read the whole thing, but it looks to have lots of good information.)
     
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    09-14-2010, 03:53 PM
  #22
mls
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Originally Posted by BackInTheSaddleAgain    
You are totally right.
So then I will ask - why did you jump on me for my question?

There are brands of tape that are not intended to conduct electricity. Before you get too deep in your research, verify the type of tape you have. We only use tape as the top row for visibility - (tape stretches and we have a lot of deer in the area) the remainder is standard electric fence wire. As of now I do not recall the gauge we use for the horses. (we run both horses and cattle)
     
    09-14-2010, 04:13 PM
  #23
Yearling
I really wasn't jumping on you for your question. I did jump on you after the fact, though! Lol I've had my guard up lately. My apologies. Not to give a sob story, but Hell was handed to me this week and my words to you, unfortunately, reflected that. Sometimes I have to remind myself to breath. I'm a walking ball of stress right now. I'm sorry. I'm really not a mean person. I feel bad.

I will double-check the brand of tape. We have used an alternate kind to section off grass and it had a WAY stronger current. Unfortunately, the base requires that we have white fencing. The stronger ribbon is black and yellow. I also need to call and see how long the solar powered battery is expected to last. It's had just over one year of use.
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Originally Posted by mls    
So then I will ask - why did you jump on me for my question?

There are brands of tape that are not intended to conduct electricity. Before you get too deep in your research, verify the type of tape you have. We only use tape as the top row for visibility - (tape stretches and we have a lot of deer in the area) the remainder is standard electric fence wire. As of now I do not recall the gauge we use for the horses. (we run both horses and cattle)
     
    09-15-2010, 10:39 PM
  #24
Super Moderator
Thread is reopened, because it's very informative and can benefit other people (not just OP). Any other suggestions/advices/experience on electric fencing are very welcome!

PLEASE, be polite to each other and stay on track!
     
    09-15-2010, 11:52 PM
  #25
Foal
When using wooden posts for any electric you need to use an insulator. This keeps the electric current from traveling through the post into the ground. So there for if it is just attatched to the post it will be grounding out the fence. IF you had a real strong fencer it might be putting out some current but it will be barely anything, we have been using electric fences here forever hope this helps some ;)
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    09-16-2010, 12:28 AM
  #26
Green Broke
My2 - I got what you were trying to say and why. So you could provide your BO with replies from people you believe to be experienced. It wasn't that hard to decipher.

And yes, putting that directly on wood will not work. Our BO uses the little plastic holders (can't think the of the name right off) and nails them to the wood then runs the hot tape through that. Works like a charm.

And the safety of the horse seemed pretty obvious - no one wants their horse to escape. My boy has gotten out a few times and I kept telling the BO not to put him in the upper pasture because she wouldn't hot tape that one. Finally he got out and I lost it and she she moved him to the lower pasture where the little turd can't escape!

Good luck!!
     
    09-16-2010, 04:26 AM
  #27
Green Broke
Yes the current will ground but it is likely the fencing will still be effective because the horses will still think it is electrified.
     
    09-16-2010, 06:43 AM
  #28
Banned
I already deleted the PM I wrote you (OP) after I found this thread locked yesterday. And I do not remember what I covered in it. Hmpf.

I do remember saying that there are white tape fences that are 'strong'. Electric tape appears to come in two categories. Temporary and permanent. (Not that either lasts forever by any stretch.) There is at least one brand of electric tape that advertises for permanent installations. Will it allow a horse to still run thru it if it really wants to? For sure.

Your best bet is to gather facts and show people how the fence has plenty of jolt on this side of that wood post and no jolt on that side of the wood post so the wood post is grounding the fence out enough that it is making it not work well.

Fingers crossed you can get the others to listen.
     
    09-16-2010, 10:54 AM
  #29
Yearling
Thank you everyone!
I investigated all of the pastures and found the problem.... actually three problems O_o

First and biggest thing: Where most of the stable mates would use more ribbon to section off for grass growth, one person had attached her metal panels to the electrical fencing posts stretching from one side of the pasture to the other. *slaps palm to face*. That was grounding the fence out.

Still not completely active, though. I wrote down the electric box manufacturer. The site states that wood is a no-no as it may not ground out the fence, but it will drain the charge. I went back and removed the telephone poll. Much better!

Still not a complete charge /
Ahhh.... the solar panel is covered in dust! Rubbed it clean, and the charge slowly went all the way up. The fence is now active, but I seem to have made a few people really angry in the process. Lol

The pastures in the other side of the property can't feel a shock unless they touch their opposite hand to the ground and in wet ground. I dusted their solar panel off but saw many posts without plastic clips and instead had the tape wrapped around many wooden posts. That's going to be a project, and technically I'm not supposed to mess with anyone's stuff. Luckily, I got the vice president of our club on board after she had read the manufacturer website.
     
    09-16-2010, 11:23 AM
  #30
Banned
Great job!!!!

I can not believe someone would attach metal panels to the electric fence and expect to have any fence charge left. Wow!
     

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