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post #1 of 20 Old 06-08-2013, 07:09 PM Thread Starter
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Horse won't respect fence.. bad cut again

I got a new horse last September and am boarding for the first time. I love the barn I board at.

The fencing is high tensile with electric. Oz simply does NOT respect the fence. He cut his hock on the fence this past winter... took a couple months to heal.

The BO told me that he's been sneaking through the fence. She's watched how he does it... Just sticks his head under the top wire and goes through. Pays NO attention to the current.

She thought he was escaping to get to greener grass so she put him and his herd in a larger pasture with lots of nice grass. He decided to escape again and this time managed to cut his hock again... this time worse than the last.

What the heck am I going to do with this horse?!? I'm super bummed that he's hurt again and also sad that my summer riding plans are now finished.

We've considered moving him to my parents' with the rest of my horses... mostly due to the fact that we're not sure we can afford to keep paying board. We just redid part of the fence with heavy gauge barbless wire and are going to electrify it... but the line fence with the neighbor (he has beef cattle) is barbed. I worry about moving Oz there because he manages to cut himself on wire without barbs.

The pasture at my parents' is MUCH larger, though.... about 40 acres vs. about 10 at the boarding barn.

Thoughts? Ideas?
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post #2 of 20 Old 06-09-2013, 08:07 PM
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If he is getting through electric wire. I would assume volts are not strong enough or something along that affect.
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post #3 of 20 Old 06-09-2013, 08:18 PM
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I would agree maybe see about adding a midway strand of electric wire? I know my trainers horses figured out when the wire was off and the gelding I ride would pull it down little bugger. Never had one actually go under one that is on and not go runnin for the hills when shocked. Granted her mastiffs have to have horse hot wire to keep them in their kennels, regular hot wire did absolutely nothing to keep them in, her male ate through pig fencing and put a hole in the chain link.

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post #4 of 20 Old 06-09-2013, 08:32 PM
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First thing, I'd make sure the fence is set to T-Rex strength! Make him think twice about going through it again!! Check how far he is away from the source of electricity. The farther away the weaker the pulse. Maybe you can have him moved closer to the source?
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post #5 of 20 Old 06-09-2013, 10:33 PM
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How many in the herd is my question?

And 10 acres for more than 2 or 3 horses is pushing it. Could be he is getting run off grazing and he is trying to find a place to eat in peace too.

I'd be looking into bringing him home I think.

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post #6 of 20 Old 06-09-2013, 10:47 PM
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We have one of Horse like that, he's a fricking fence wrecker. Why?, I don't know, what I do know is making our two wire fence tight as it should be has kept him in.
He means no harm or has any wish to leave, but pushes fences. And I found that he stops pushing if they are tight and strong.
If the high tinsel has give, it needs to be tighter.
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This fence needs to be one hot wire and one wire hooked to neutral or ground on the charger. And the charger needs to be well grounded with preferably three rods in the ground and all connected. If the fence is weak a poor ground is often the problem. It also needs to be check periodically for branches. A single hot wire in summer will suffice because the horse is standing on the ground. In winter where there is snow there definitely has to be two wires. Most chargers are good for a mile or more. It is dealing with voltage only, no amperage thus little resistance. The fence should be tested with a voltmeter.
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I will ask the BO about the setup of the fence. The biggest issue is that Oz is the ONLY horse that is getting out. In the winter when it happened there were three horses that got cut but we think the first one pulled the wire down and then the other two got tangled in it because it was down and nobody noticed.

There are 7 horses in the herd (I may be off about the acreage, and they have been turned out in a larger pasture since I was last out there). Oz is not getting bullied, though... he has no marks on him and nobody's ever seen him getting chased since the first few weeks he arrived (back in September). The BO actually WATCHED him walk through the fence... and nobody was bothering him in the slightest.

My biggest worry about bringing him to my parents is the barbed wire. We put up barbless on the fence we just replaced but there is still barbed on the rest of it. Granted, it's all going to be electric, but if he's not respecting the electric where he's at, why would he respect the electric at my parents? Another down side is that it's over an hour away, but the way things have been going at work lately I haven't been able to work with him, anyway.

He's still in training, and I haven't even ridden him yet. I'm "in training" myself. I've been taking lessons. Both of us were just at the point where the trainer felt I could ride him and then this happened. So, I really don't want to bring him home until I've at least ridden him a few times to make sure I'm comfortable. I have no arena (outdoor or indoor) at my parents' so that security would not be there. It would be straight up trail riding (there is an arena a few miles away but we'd have to trail ride in order to get there).

I'm just really tore up about it. First and foremost, I'm upset he's hurt. Secondly, I was planning on riding him a lot this summer and then making a decision what to do in the fall: keep him where he's at, move him to my parents, or sell him if he ends up being too much horse for me. Now I'm continuing to pay board, his training time will be extended, plus there's the extra cost while he's stall bound and requires so much extra care.
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Have you thought about setting up electric tape and standards at your parents place? Nothing to get hurt on and set it up so it packs a punch.....then transfer the tape to the regular fence (with the use of insulators) once he learns to keep of it......??
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Have you thought about setting up electric tape and standards at your parents place? Nothing to get hurt on and set it up so it packs a punch.....then transfer the tape to the regular fence (with the use of insulators) once he learns to keep of it......??
I actually was considering setting up tape. I have to put T post caps on and saw the nifty ones that double as tape insulators. The only trouble is cost... we're talking approximately two miles of fence and hundreds of posts. Cheapest I've found for caps is $7 for a bag of 10... I'm afraid to price out tape....
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