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    06-10-2013, 11:01 PM
  #11
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
I actually was considering setting up tape. I have to put T post caps on and saw the nifty ones that double as tape insulators. The only trouble is cost... we're talking approximately two miles of fence and hundreds of posts. Cheapest I've found for caps is $7 for a bag of 10... I'm afraid to price out tape....
Rotate graze him, square off a smaller space and just shift it once a week or so, those standards are super easy to move, that way you don't have to tape the whole thing, just square off areas
     
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    06-10-2013, 11:08 PM
  #12
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
Rotate graze him, square off a smaller space and just shift it once a week or so, those standards are super easy to move, that way you don't have to tape the whole thing, just square off areas
That's the other problem.... I'm lucky if I get to my parents twice per month. The day to day care falls to my mom and dad so things need to be as easy as possible.
     
    06-10-2013, 11:11 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
That's the other problem.... I'm lucky if I get to my parents twice per month. The day to day care falls to my mom and dad so things need to be as easy as possible.
How many acres will he be on at your parents place? Because if its a huge area I wouldn't be too concerned about him and the fences, they usually only be dinky with fences if they're in a smaller space.

You could standard and tape a large square big enough for him to pick at for two weeks? Hmmmm.
     
    06-10-2013, 11:17 PM
  #14
Trained
I have one who would just go right through the tape. Problem was the output of the charger. It was sufficient for dogs really, but not for a determined horse. I bought a 15 joule AC unit that is rated for bulls and other large strong animals. He touched it 2 times, not again. The first time he touched it, he walked up like he was going through it.....uh HUH! You could hear him grunt all the way back to the barn. Second time, he walked up and sniffed it and touched it with his nose. He ran like he'd been bit by something. Hasn't offered to get close to it since. Everybody else respects the 1 joule type but oh no, not him, he gotta have the strongest one Zareba makes. I also put up the the Dare Heavy Duty Equi Rope, breaking point 1592 lbs. And it STRETCHES a lot before it breaks, so it's gives a lesson that's not soon forgotten.

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I forgot to mention, I have a common fence with a neighbor that has barb wire too, I just put the T posts 3 feet inside the fence line and used the caps and 5 in. Extended length t-post insulators to add some distance. He WON'T get near that barb wire because of the HOT wire.
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    06-10-2013, 11:17 PM
  #15
Yearling
Thanks for all the ideas. :)

The pasture at my parents is large... 30-40 acres. It is great pasture and also has trees. There is a free choice shelter with two doors so nobody gets caught inside. The other horses on the farm are my AQHA gelding that loves everyone, my SIL's Arab/Paint gelding that is a big snot until he gets to know a new horse (which is why we leave new horses in a corral for a long time when they first arrive) and two young shetland ponies (one recently gelded, the other a yearling that will be gelded next year). SIL's gelding is actually the low horse in the herd which is why he's a jerk to new horses... we think he's trying to get one up on them before he falls to bottom horse again. Ponies are actually going to be let out with the big boys after being in their own pen for nearly nine months... have to wait for Warrior to heal up after his gelding, though.
     
    06-10-2013, 11:25 PM
  #16
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
Thanks for all the ideas. :)

The pasture at my parents is large... 30-40 acres. It is great pasture and also has trees. There is a free choice shelter with two doors so nobody gets caught inside. The other horses on the farm are my AQHA gelding that loves everyone, my SIL's Arab/Paint gelding that is a big snot until he gets to know a new horse (which is why we leave new horses in a corral for a long time when they first arrive) and two young shetland ponies (one recently gelded, the other a yearling that will be gelded next year). SIL's gelding is actually the low horse in the herd which is why he's a jerk to new horses... we think he's trying to get one up on them before he falls to bottom horse again. Ponies are actually going to be let out with the big boys after being in their own pen for nearly nine months... have to wait for Warrior to heal up after his gelding, though.
I'm thinking you'll probably be ok with that much land for him to move freely around on.....with that much space they usually only get themselves derailed in a fence if they get into a fight beside the fence, they get a fright beside the fence or they get fed beside the fence, I've seen loads of injuries to horses from people being too lazy to take the feed a fair distance into the pasture and just throwing it over the fence and letting the horses squabble beside the fence.
     
    06-15-2013, 12:12 AM
  #17
Yearling
I've never been a fan of barbed wire but I gotta say, I've kept horses in it for 20 years without a single wire related injury (knocks on wood). Kept my new boy in smooth wire for nine months and he's managed to cut himself twice. Go figure.
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    06-15-2013, 08:31 PM
  #18
Showing
I agree with checking what kind of charger you're using. Some chargers that are commonly sold for horses just don't pack much "umph". I can walk up to my fence and, while it does bite a little bit, it's only unpleasant. For horses like Oz, it needs to be painful to touch the fence.

I second the use of the powerful chargers that are rated for cattle. While I can stand and hold my finger to my charger all day with only some discomfort to show for it, I accidentally touched a wire run from a bull charger once...and I'll never do it again. It literally knocked me off my feet. It was about like being tazed LOL.
     
    06-15-2013, 09:00 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Unfortunately, once horses know they can get out, they are much much harder to keep in from then on. I had one that would jump over fences if he couldn't bust or go through them. We tried it all, and ended up with 5 foot no climb with a hot wire topper 6 inches above that, and gates set high with a hot line strung over the top of them. And even then, he still managed to get out. And it didn't matter what sort of pasture he was on, or how many herd mates we had, he still did it. I watched him bust through a fence to leave a 40 acre pasture of grass and his 4 best buddies, to nibble scrub grass and weeds on the edge of a crop field. He passed away at 29 from cancer, and still managed to jump out over the gate not even a week before he passed. He waited on the outside of the gate, never even walked off from it, he just escaped out of habit.

Now that you have an escape artist, you will have to be extra diligent about fence upkeep for as long as you have him.
     
    06-16-2013, 09:48 AM
  #20
Green Broke
We have two Houdinis. It's seriously irritating. We have a cattle rated charger and we're using less than 1/5 of the amount of fenceline it's rated to. And yet almost every morning we go outside and the tread-ins are all over the joint and the fence is down and both the mares are on the wrong side of the bloody fence.

These same mares broke a stable gate to get into the feed, and are notorious for opening gates. One is impossible to keep in plain wire, has to be cattle mesh or she's straight through.

Irritatingly we don't own the property and can't afford to spend the kind of money it would take to re-fence on a property we don't own, especially considering it's looking like the area will be developed in another year or two. My girl in particular is quite hard on fences and has no respect for electrics, regardless of strength...
     

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