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post #1 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 01:49 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Just pay the board, and shut up.

So a fellow barn mate called me one faithful morning around 8am and told me my boy was trying to colic. He was trashing and REALLY uncomfortable. i was lucky enough to have a trainer that administered banamine and i hand walked him for 4 hours. He was fed by the "worker" around 6am... and yet i didn't get a call from the barn owner that my boy wasn't eating, and that he was in a bad way. Instead, it was a friend that was going out to ride and heard him trashing around!!!

Fast forward to this last weekend:
Those of you that listen to the news know that we're having some wild weather here in California. So it's been raining solid for days and days. The problem is that California wasn't built for this type of downpour rain. So our horses are stuck in rain soaked, pooling, muddy, stalls... and we're being expected to handle this on our own! No sand bags, no shavings, no straw, nothing... unless you haul it up and get it there on your own. I drive a teeeeeeny car... i can't "HAUL" anything!!! My barn owner simply pays a young man to feed and muck a couple times a day, and then tells us to fend for ourselves. am i crazy?? is this so so very wrong?? I cannot afford the luxury barns. paying $1000 a month in board is beyond anything i can imagine. But i'm still a paying client. and our barn is technically a "show" barn. and she is technically running a "business", but what the heck????

What do ya'll think????
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post #2 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 07:47 AM
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Are your stalls outside? Are you renting just a paddock? It sounds as if you are getting what you pay for. Stalls mucked and horses fed a couple of times a day.

I am not sure what to tell you. I don't think it is feasible to think the BO will be out in the barn babysitting every horse. This is my thought, depending on the size of the barn, most chores would have been done by 8 and it is very possible that when your friend showed up, there was no one around. Or they were off at another area giving lessons.

I board my horse at a private farm now but there is no one there watching them 24/7 to see what they are or are not doing. When I boarded at a bigger boarding facility chores were done twice a day. If we seen something amiss we would let the BO know or contact the owner of the horse.

I think you want more than you are getting so maybe should look to board elsewhere. I think your BO is doing what is expected of her. If you want the extras I can see where you would be expected to provide it. JMO.
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post #3 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 07:58 AM
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Have you asked if the BO can have shavings or something brought in for those that wish to pay a small extra fee? Unless it was specified that you would have shavings, etc...., I don't know if there is much you can do. I understand your situation, I wouldn't want my boy standing in mud all day long either.
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post #4 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 08:58 AM
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I personally think it is crap. I mean here in Maryland when you pay full board on a horse it includes providing feed, providing hay, saw dust, and they turn out your horse and bring them in. It also includes blanketing in the winter and of course filling and cleanin the water and stalls. And every place I've boarded has always taken emergency contact info and checks on the horses daily. If the person who is cleaning and feeding doesn't know signs of colic then they probably shouldn't work at a horse boarding facility. IMO And i can imagine if you live in california its probably pretty expensive. around here typical board if around 350 per month. I'd say if your paying that kind of money then they should be doing all those things.

If your paying Full care you should not have to provide the extras. And saw dust IMO is not an extra.

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post #5 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 09:23 AM
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I'd say if your horse is off his feed and you didn't get a call about it then you have a right to be mad. And if the stalls are flooding then it should be the barns responsibility to fix it.

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post #6 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 09:32 AM
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I agree with Buck, absolutely. If you are paying full board, you should be receiving full care.

At the previous barn I was at, the board was $375.00 a month, and that included EVERYTHING. Seriously. At the time, it was a very large Fox Hunting/Eventing Barn, very popular and always busy with something going on. 40+ boarders and that monthly fee, took care of Feed, Shavings, Unlimited hay, Blanket Changing, turn in and turn out, full use of facility Emergency Care *meaning, vet called asap and someone there to handle things until you arrive or even if you cannot show up due to work or other means. All repairs were done by the Barn Workers *they were burly men who could hande anything* and a boarder was never left to "fend for themselves".

You bet your bippy, that the Workers at that barn, kept a very close eye on the horses - and there were A LOT of horses. Any injuries, lost shoes, off feed, colic, fever - did not matter, the barn knew about it before the owner did.

I say, you should find somewhere else if you can, and if you choose to stay, you need to voice your feelings and opinions about this. If they don't know how you feel, they wont beable to "fix" anything. I was always taught by my parents, that if you want to stay in the game, you have to lay all your cards on the table to beable to proceed forward. I do not agree that you should just "put up with it" because that's garbage. I would voice your opinion to the BO/BM. If you decide to stay, make yourself known and have a 1 on 1 conversation with the "authority" there and tell them exactly how you feel about this.

Your horse should not have to be stuck in rain pooled muddy stalls - and if your BO want to pay for your horses foot work when he incurs scratches and thrush, then fine - but if not, then they need to do something about this - since it is their barn and their business. You are paying them monthly for the care of your horse, they need to hold up their end of the deal.

I understand your frustration about the colic issue - the barn I am at now, DID NOT notice Nelson was colicing either. He was in his stall, and NO ONE noticed. He was standing there not eating his feed, and had his head in the corner with it drooped. No one took notice, and it wasn't until I showed up after work to take care of his leg *this was when he had that bad injury* when I discovered his situation.

It ended up being a very bad bout - and you BET YOUR BIPPY I made the BO and her help get out there with me and spend the next 7 hours with my Vet trying to get him back. I almost lost him, honestly - it was bad, it got to the point where my vet was saying we might have to let him go.

I had a long discussion with the BO telling her exactly how I feel, and you can be sure that they keep a closer eye on the horses. If they are running a facility and taking money from people for the care of their horses - they had better do their jobs.

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post #7 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 09:34 AM
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Interesting replies.

The rain is an act of God, force of nature. It doesn't matter how much the OP pays in board. The BO cannot control the weather.

As far as the person doing the feeding not seeing the horse colicing - how do you know it was when feeding was in progress?
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post #8 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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Interesting replies.

The rain is an act of God, force of nature. It doesn't matter how much the OP pays in board. The BO cannot control the weather.

As far as the person doing the feeding not seeing the horse colicing - how do you know it was when feeding was in progress?
I totally agree!!!!!!!!

If the barn was just crappy and was expecting you to pay extra for their lack of proper care that would be different. You are talking about 100year rainfall rates that no one can plan for.

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My question is, what exactly are you paying for? If it's minimal care, then you can't squawk and expect more just because the weather's bad. The weather's bad for everyone, the BO included.

It has nothing to do with whether where you're boarding is considered a show barn or not. It has everything to do with the services for which you're paying.

You say you can't afford the high end full care barns, so why should the BO take on additional expenses just because you don't want to spend the extra money?

If you're that concerned, make arrangements to have shavings hauled in for your horse, and spend more time at the barn with him.

Bottom line, it's your horse and thus your responsibility to make sure he's cared for properly.
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post #10 of 109 Old 12-21-2010, 10:09 AM
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Personally if my barn were flooding, I'd be doing everything in my power to stop it, because I'd worry about damage to the barn with mud and wet and then 1200lb animals stomping around in it. But technically there isn't much you can do but talk with them about it, and see if you can come to a mutual agreement, and if not, get the heck out of dodge. There may not be much they can do about it, but unless the amount of care is not what you agreed to, then there isn't a whole lot you can do about it either, except move.

As far as the colicking goes, a colic can come up suddenly. Who's to say the horse was acting oddly when they did morning chores? It could be that they weren't paying attention, but it could also be that there was nothing to see.

The best thing you can do is TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.

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