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post #21 of 29 Old 12-28-2012, 09:53 AM
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I have about a 50 gal trough, though. Would it work then? My barn is an acre away from the house and we have no way to bring the warm water down there besides manual carrying. It really slows me down in the mornings when I am in a hurry the most.

I am thinking of buying another trough (larger) and bringing it to the very tip top of our huge "hill" where the fence is. The hill makes it extremely hard to carry the water and if I bring it to the top of the hill I can load several buckets of warm water into my truck and easily drive to the trough, or I can run just one extension cord out there and heat it.
That would leave me with my smaller one inside the barn that I could try the football method with. Also, how do you prevent the smaller water buckets in the stalls from freezing?
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post #23 of 29 Old 12-28-2012, 01:32 PM
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We don't have water running in our barn currently. We put out a 150 rubbermaid tank as close as we could to the house. Then we ran pvc pipe all the way to the tank; we were able to hang ours along a fence that separates two pastures. To fill the tank, we hook up a 100' hose to the house and to the closest end of the pvc pipe to fill the tank. I've seen people use this "pvc extension" over hundreds of feet; it's nice if you can get a slight downhill slope so it drains in the winter.

There is a waterer made for cattle that has a floating ball in a hole. When the animal wants to drink it pushes the ball down. When it is done, the ball pops back up to seal the hole.

I know there are solar powered stock tank heaters, but they are expensive and I have to wonder how much heat they can produce. They do make solar powered aerators that, depending on how cold it gets, might keep the water form freezing. There are also batter powered heaters.

When I was boarding my horses while I was in school, the facility had no electric to where my horses were. I dug a hold, set a tank down into it (about half way deep), and then used horse manure to fill in to the top of the tank. Kept the tank from freezing most days (and these were Iowa winters). I'd have to add manure from time to time as it broke down. One of the other boarders simply piled horse manure up around her horses buckets daily to keep them from freezing.

It helps tremendously to: 1) cover the tank with a dark cover leaving only space large enough for the horse to get its head down to drink; 2) insulating the outside of the tank with good insulation; 3) set the tank on good insulation.

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I just hammer (with a big hammer) a hole in my troughs morning and night. (I have three 100 gallon troughs). In the evenings I carry warm water down to the barn and I put it in the stall buckets because I want to ensure the horses are drinking enough, especially my older horse, who is prone to colic. (Some horses don't like to drink cold water or will drink less when it's cold).

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I just hammer (with a big hammer) a hole in my troughs morning and night. (I have three 100 gallon troughs). In the evenings I carry warm water down to the barn and I put it in the stall buckets because I want to ensure the horses are drinking enough, especially my older horse, who is prone to colic. (Some horses don't like to drink cold water or will drink less when it's cold).
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post #26 of 29 Old 12-31-2012, 04:23 PM
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freezing water

ok you have answerd your own questions on keeping from freezing use a small header tank long rubber hose pipe run it through the muck heap and have an electric heating pump to pump the water through the hose have the hose zig zag round the trough so the hose pipe will act as a heat exchanger and hopefully keep the water in the trough frost free.
as with electric use what we call a rcd trip switch any problems it will isolate your extention cord i agree with taffy clayton 1 long length is better than 2 on the other hand does your electrical wholesaler sell heavy duty cable and a plug and socket that you can make your own lead and as with horses dont forget the trip switch for safty in emergencys.
also you could use the water to wash your hands and in the spring summer bath your horses in warm water.
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I've heard of digging a hole for the tank to rest in keeps them from freezing... I've always wondered if it would work/how far you would have to burry it if the ground itself was frozen... might be worth looking into.

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Re breaking ice in trough: I've heard of some folks putting a wooden fence post in the trough, leaning it up against the inside of the tank. The purpose of is to stir it around to break up the ice rather than having to hit the ice with a hammer or stone.

Re freezing inside stall buckets: That happens to us as well. We use the black rubber buckets that are tough and easy to get rid of the ice by tapping the sides and bottom with a hammer. If you're using box stalls, it helps to have the buckets hanging on an isle wall rather than the outside wall.

Re extension cords: You might want to check at your local hardware/construction store to see what they have for wiring/cable that is tough and weather resistant and can be used to make your own specialized cord. The stuff that I'm thinking about is the kind that you use for buried electrical cable. I'm not an electrician by a long shot but I do know that once you start joining shorter extension cords together to make a long one, the current is weaker by the time it reaches the end destination.
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post #29 of 29 Old 12-31-2012, 10:29 PM
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Halfahaffie, try chopping the ice with an axe. We do that when we go ice fishing. Sometimes the ice is over a foot thick.
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