packed shavings in stalls?

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    02-13-2012, 12:24 PM
packed shavings in stalls?

The current barn I work in has this weird concept I haven't heard about when it comes to stalls. She has mats in her stalls, and then she keeps a base of wet shavings underneath her dry shavings. The "base" as she calls it is very wet and full of urine. However, she doesn't want me to dig into the base and ruin it. I find the whole concept of her "base" as weird and counterproductive. I always thought the mats were suppose to be the cushioning "base." Her stalls are always very wet because of her wet base and it makes cleaning stalls a pain. I have never spent so much time cleaning stalls before! A lot of her horses have tendon and ligament issues and I am wondering if this wet base is making these issues more pronounced. I am curious about what other people think about this situation.
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    02-13-2012, 12:26 PM
I think she's going to have a barn full of horses with thrush, if she doesn't already.
    02-13-2012, 12:39 PM
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That sounds absolutely unsanitary.
    02-13-2012, 12:56 PM
Or a barnfull of horses with breathing problems. When we'd bed with straw, the wettest areas were removed with the remainder fluffed up against the stall boards to allow it to dry. What had been wet was put in the area where the horse usually peed or dumped. The previously dry straw was then spread to become the base and a few fresh flakes were fluffed on top. This method does not work with shavings. She's trying to save money but horses can quickly develop sores if laying in this.
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    02-13-2012, 01:11 PM
That is how I feel about it too. I have worked at a couple of barns and was taught to always get the wet stuff up! I think her way to would give horses feet problems and it's disgusting. I don't know if I should bring it up to her though. I feel like I should, but I doubt she would change. She's been doing this for awhile. I can't believe people board at her place. Thanks guys! I was thinking I was going crazy!
    02-13-2012, 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Or a barn full of horses with breathing problems.
Yes, that too. The ammonia created by urine would definitely create breathing problems for horses stalled longer than a couple of hours.

I've always discarded wet bedding, and every barn I've ever been to does the same. I can't imagine what this woman is thinking.
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    02-13-2012, 01:22 PM
That sounds disgusting, and is not healthy for the horses. I can't imagine how bad her barn smells with all that ammonia.
    02-13-2012, 01:42 PM
Originally Posted by arabgirl247    
I don't know if I should bring it up to her though.
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    02-13-2012, 02:01 PM
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Absolutely incorrect way to manage stalls and horrible for the horse's health. Sounds like she is justifying her attempt to save money on putting fresh shavings in a stall. YUCK!!
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    02-13-2012, 02:43 PM
That sounds disgusting. Whenever I clean a stall, I try to remove as much of the wet material as I can, shaking the shavings through the fork and sifting them as much as possible. At one barn, they didn't have stall mats in the stalls and the horses stood on packed dirt. We sprinkled lime on the wet spots and tried to give the stall floor as much time to dry as possible before we re-bedded. On any given day, we would turn horses out, clean stalls and pile the shavings up along the sides of the stalls. Just before we brought horses in at the end of the day, we would throw in fresh shavings. The dirt floor had a chance to dry and the barn never smelled of ammonia like some barns have a tendency to.

Keeping a layer of wet shavings in a stall is just asking for thrush and breathing problems. I bet there are no barefoot horses in that barn either, because they are ouchy due to the wet bedding.
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