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post #11 of 18 Old 05-18-2013, 12:33 PM
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I'm not sure if the paradise paddock really makes the horses move more than just being in pasture? Wasn't there a study that showed this was not the case?

Mine do not seem to move more on the track than they do when allowed access to large pasture. But what I have found my track is fabulous for is a replacement for a dry lot. My horses barely move in the dry lot so they do move much more on the track.
paddockparadise is MEANT to be a drylot, with limited access to lush pasture for horses who have or might have metabolic problems. And for people with limited land/pasture, to make the most out of it.
I'm pretty sure with a big enough drylot and the feeding stations spread out just like in a pp, horses would move the same.
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post #12 of 18 Old 05-18-2013, 05:48 PM
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paddockparadise is MEANT to be a drylot, with limited access to lush pasture for horses who have or might have metabolic problems. And for people with limited land/pasture, to make the most out of it.
I'm pretty sure with a big enough drylot and the feeding stations spread out just like in a pp, horses would move the same.
Some people are under the impression (and I've seen articles stating this as well) that a horse will move more on a track than they will on a large pasture and have have made the transition to a track setup when limiting the pasture really wasn't the goal - just creating more movement was. It doesn't work like that which has been proven by studies utilizing GPS tracking.

I got the impression from the op that her goal was more movement and not necessarily saving pasture/limiting grazing - which is why I posted what I did. On the other hand if her goal is saving pasture while still promoting some movement then the track option is great.

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I don't think she even has pasture.
If I had 50 acres grass, I wouldn't bother with a track, not even in winter, being in Cali, unless I had IR horses.
With 5 acres I would create a track, to not ruin all pasture. With IR horse, same thing. Having the 5 acres in a rainy area, I'd definitely have the track.
So it's merely about necessity, I think. I think it's a great idea, especially for people with little land. Grass or not
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If you have no grass - what is the point then? Just let the horses have it all - they will get the same movement and you reduce risk of over eroding a track area.

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Well, in my case, I have roughly 2 acres drylot, track, and arena in the middle.
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post #16 of 18 Old 05-19-2013, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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If you have no grass - what is the point then? Just let the horses have it all - they will get the same movement and you reduce risk of over eroding a track area.
The horses cannot have it all because even though it isn't an irrigated pasture, my land does have other value, including some areas with rare native vegetation and fantastic wildlife habitat. Also, half of it is off the edge of a cliff...

One horse here came on the verge of founder and I am pretty certain she has metabolic issues, so even if pasturing the land was an option, I would not chose it. Basically the horses are stuck in a dry lot and I want to make their life as interesting as I can given the situation.

I am aware that the track system is in no way a perfect solution! Unless a horse has thousands of acres to roam at will, erosion will occur from repeated hoof action on the soil, especially when the soil does not have an intense root system and exudates to hold it together in a structured profile.
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The horses cannot have it all because even though it isn't an irrigated pasture, my land does have other value, including some areas with rare native vegetation and fantastic wildlife habitat. Also, half of it is off the edge of a cliff...

One horse here came on the verge of founder and I am pretty certain she has metabolic issues, so even if pasturing the land was an option, I would not chose it. Basically the horses are stuck in a dry lot and I want to make their life as interesting as I can given the situation.

I am aware that the track system is in no way a perfect solution! Unless a horse has thousands of acres to roam at will, erosion will occur from repeated hoof action on the soil, especially when the soil does not have an intense root system and exudates to hold it together in a structured profile.
Actually this is one of the situations I would use the track option. If its a choice of small dry lot vs track around a larger area type decision, I would go for the track if possible.

My misunderstanding is I thought you had a sparse pasture that was fine for them to be on but though adding a track instead around it would make them move more.

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Oh how I wish I had sparse pasture! I have a lawn that my gelding occasionally gets 30 minutes of hand grazing on when we don't feel like mowing

If you look at my avatar pic, that nice sandy patch...the whole dry lot (almost an acre) is like that. It was native grasses and brush when i brought the horses, but was 100% denuded in literally 3 weeks. The soil here makes keeping horses quite challenging because it is relatively new volcanic sands that can't hold roots worth a darned. But, my horse seems happy about this, since his favorite activity just so happens to be rolling!
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