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        01-02-2014, 06:09 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    "I redid my horses turnouts to be half, 5/8ths minus gravel and half hogs fuel.

    I go through 2 bags of shavings a month, and our manure pile is a forced air system that breaks down to useable compost in 50-60 days. This method is cheaper and more environmentally friendly.
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    Sorry to hog this part of the tread, but I am intrigued...

    Big Girl... do you mean their turnout footing is 1/2 gravel and one half hog fuel? How thick is that footing (living here in deep spring/fall mud, it is one of my dreams to re-do some paddock footing...)

    And how does a forced air manure system work?
         
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        01-02-2014, 06:29 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Captain Evil    
    "I redid my horses turnouts to be half, 5/8ths minus gravel and half hogs fuel.

    I go through 2 bags of shavings a month, and our manure pile is a forced air system that breaks down to useable compost in 50-60 days. This method is cheaper and more environmentally friendly.
    "

    Sorry to hog this part of the tread, but I am intrigued...

    Big Girl... do you mean their turnout footing is 1/2 gravel and one half hog fuel? How thick is that footing (living here in deep spring/fall mud, it is one of my dreams to re-do some paddock footing...)

    And how does a forced air manure system work?
    My turnouts I stripped the topsoil down to the bedrock and graded it with the run off going to super deep French drain. The I put down a layer of geotextile fabric, followed by 6"-8" inches of 1 1/4 drain rock, another layer of geotextile fabric and then 4-6 inches of course sand then twice over with a plate compactor.

    Then I got some rail road ties off of Craig's List to separate the 5/8ths minus area from the hogs fuel area and then filled each area. I also plate compacted the gravel area again.

    The hogs fuel area gets a little soggy after it rains but dries out fairly quickly due to being drained from below, especially with direct sun light.

    I did my turn outs 2 years ago and the the last one thus past summer. I have to add a little hog fuel just b/c it breaks down and the horses rolling in it creates ditches.

    My active composting system, is from O2 Composting systems. They are AWESOME! But you can find instructions on how to make it yourself if you Google "forced air composting".

    Completely changed the way how I manage manure! O2 Composting has a ton of good resources on the topic: http://www.o2compost.com/ag-links.aspx
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        01-02-2014, 07:05 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Captain Evil    
    My barn is 24 x 24: concrete floors with double stall mats, and has five rooms. You walk into a 12x12 open with two 6 wide x 12 deep tack/feed rooms on either side. The 12 x 12 stall leads into two other 12 x 12 stalls behind it. Because my horse is a poop and beats up other horses, Ahab has the entire barn to himself.

    So, he has one back stall very deeply bedded with shavings; usually better than a foot; for sleeping and he does not poop or pee in it, one back stall for eating grain, which is sparsely bedded; maybe 3 or 4 " of shavings, and the outer open front stall for eating hay and hanging out in, which has shavings in it, but mostly hay that he drags around. He does pee and poop here. He sleeps in the bedded stall all the time-- all night, and he naps there too, although he has access to all three stalls and his paddock too, 24/7.

    I think deep shavings are really important for my guy, since he is so heavy and getting old. I know he uses that stall a lot; he is always covered in shavings, and I can keep it thick because of the non-poop/pee situation.
    Interesting set up, thanks for sharing!
         
        01-02-2014, 07:10 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eeo11horse    
    There's nothing I can really do about it- I just work there- but I was just wondering what others thought. They definitely care about the horses there and she's very picky about the cleanliness of the stalls...so I guess they're just trying to cut down on waste, which is understandable. We end up taking out A LOT of shavings because they make such a mess.

    If the stalls are being used a lot (and the horse is using them as a bathroom)..ime the less shavings you use the messier it gets. You either need to use barely none and clean often or bed deeply. You will waste more with less shavings than you will with more. They mix together and all the nasty spreads everywhere.
         
        01-03-2014, 10:53 AM
      #25
    Weanling
    I haven't noticed that they've been any cleaner or nastier since the switch. It does take a lot less time to do shavings but the rest is pretty much the same. Another thing I'm curious about though... someone earlier said that they bed deeper on the walls, right? This barn owner has a pull shavings away from the wall to encourage them to lay down in the middle of the stall and decrease the risk of them getting cast. What does everyone else do?
         
        01-03-2014, 11:37 AM
      #26
    Yearling
    I'm the one who beds deeply and banks the walls...

    Bedded deeply the stall when used for a potty drains away and captures the urine and supports the manure so it isn't walked in as easily to the rest of the bedding. The stall top stayed dry as the wet had a place to go to and be absorbed.
    I used a regular sized wheelbarrow and could fit easily 2 stalls cleaned in a wheelbarrow...only thing that went out was urine soaked shavings and manure but no extra...we didn't scoop and dump, we did scoop, sift and then dumped.
    Done carefully it works, done not carefully it is a terrible waste.
    Lastly I would bend and pick up any left over pieces on my way out...it is only wet hay, just processed.

    Banking the walls actually keeps the horse from getting as close to the wall, when you bank out about 2' from the wall base, the horse has less tendency to lay down and roll that close to start with.
    When my horses were to lie down and roll they actually went down in the middle and were able to go completely over either direction with no problem. Remember, I had large boxes not smaller stalls as some have.

    I found the bedding being made much thicker in the middle puts their body on a slant to the outer edge of the stall possibly making it harder to come back over after a good roll...think of a body roll under your back, kind of holds you and makes you stay put once you turn over......

    Hey, you can only do as you are told by your boss... everyone has "their" way of doing things...as long as it works regardless of what the procedure...go for it.
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        01-03-2014, 03:58 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Yes the banking and HEAVY bedding are one way of doing it (probably the more old fashioned/fancy way??) if you are only using a small amount it is best to keep them in the middle imo.
         
        01-03-2014, 05:48 PM
      #28
    Showing
    If one corner is bedded deeply for a mare, she'll use it. Geldings? They will pee all over the stall. I remove only the very wet and fluff everything else up against the stall wall during the day. At night, that becomes the base layer then add fresh on top.
         
        01-04-2014, 01:23 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    I find any horse prefers to pee where there is bedding. They don't like the splashing.
         
        01-04-2014, 01:58 AM
      #30
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yogiwick    
    I find any horse prefers to pee where there is bedding. They don't like the splashing.
    Yup! And that's why I use next to none and make 'me sleep and pee outside. :)
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