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    08-02-2011, 04:03 PM
I was also told there would be lockers built. Again come to find out they changed their minds. They tell me one thing and do another. (Which is why I am mad in the first place. I am being told something will be done.. and then it is not.)

I never asked her NOT to have boarders. Where in my post does it even say that?
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    08-02-2011, 04:05 PM
That is why they make contracts - so that there are no mistakes about what is to be expected. I might suggest that you have one drawn up so that everyone is clear as to their expectations.
    08-02-2011, 04:07 PM
I hate to say this but unfortunately you are a boarder. When push comes to shove, you really don't have a say where your horse goes. BOs try to be accomdating as much as possible, but they usualy have the power to change fields and horses around at their free will. I understand that you are upset, but maybe there was a reason for the change? Have you heard back from her when you asked? I do not think you are out of line asking because you were under the impression he would have a buddy, but just be careful you don't over react.

As far as the fly mask is concerned, you can not assume a BO or BM will do anything other than feed your horse and make sure it has water with out an extra charge. That is something you should have asked when shopping for barns. You also want to ask about cleaning cuts and notifying the vet and you if something were to happen. You can not assume that someone will clean a cut when they see it, sad, but true. And heck, while we are at it, you want to ask about medications, wrapping, everything you can think of that your horse may need. It is vital that owners and boarders are on the same page when accpeting a new horse.

This just sounds like a case of not asking the right questions when it comes to the little things. Please let us know what she says about not having a pasture buddy.
    08-02-2011, 04:12 PM
Thanks wetrain17, that makes it a lot clearer to me. I was simply told the reason he doesn't have a buddy was because he can see them because their dutch doors can open.

It's more of a.. I feel like I was lied into coming to this place. I allowed myself to trust these people being their only boarder that things would be improving. I asked all these type of questions before I even moved my horse to this place. It just makes me furious that they give me their word on these things and then it doesn't happen. I am not use to this type of stuff.
    08-02-2011, 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by iridehorses    
Personally I think you are way over reacting. Yes, horses are herd animals but as long as they are within sight with another horse they are fine. You don't have to have physical proximity. Secondly, many stables charge extra for additional services such as putting on or taking off blankets - fly masks would also fall into this category.
this is not totally true! My horse is a 22 year old QH gelding and he totally freaks out (like running the fence, breaking through the fence, screaming pacing etc) when he is not pastured with another horse not just in the next pasture. He needs proximity. I have worked on this with him for years and he got better and was able to be alone but he is retired now and for all of the years of wonderful companionship I feel that it is the least that I can do to make sure he is happy.
    08-02-2011, 06:37 PM
There is an exception to every rule, rlcarnes.
    08-02-2011, 06:44 PM
I have gone through a fair share of 'cheap' stables and they were all a pain in my rear. The first one was one someone's property who loved horses, but had a horse-hating uncle running the business part. My horse had a stall that was 50' by 25' (I kid you not) with a 25x25 out area. The hay was good and I was only paying $130 per horse for what they said was cleaning and feeding. I was practically singing out of joy.

Then my roof leak in my stall, making it a muddy mess that never dried....they said they would fix it and never did.

The automatic water randomly stopped working, I don't know how long my horse was without water before I noticed (I was out there every other day). It took them 3 weeks to fix. My horse was put in the other large stall with my friends horse, until it was fixed.

One day the people said okay for BRAND NEW owners to bring in a 6 year old stud they bought from action that day and they wanted to put it in a pen that had a fence that was 2.5 feet high. The only way I could convince them that it was not okay was to say that the stud was going to hop the fence, kill the three geldings on the property, kill the pregnant mare's foal once it was born, and then breed to all three mares. It was over exaggerated, but it was the only way I could make sure they put the stud back on the trailer and left. (They had no fencing over 5')

Then a week later about 8 very sick looking ponies were put in the pen next to mine. The BO would not contact the owner and request for a vet check to see if it was contagious, stating that the ponies were vaccinated and were fine. (All them had heavy discharge coming out of their eyes, eyes were swollen shut and looks lethargic/dull coated.

It took me a month....a long month to get someone to trailer our horses out of there.

If they're lying now, they're going to keep lying. But make sure you understand the original promises, differentiating between "we'll try" to "yes we will" Sometimes cheap board is not worth it. Its more trouble than anything else.
    08-02-2011, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the story. Me and my fiancee are already thinking about boarding elsewhere for that exact reason. I was so happy when we first got there... then things went downhill from there. I am going to keep my eye on my horse and give them a little more time on whether to change their mind about certain things. I don't want this to turn into a horror story.
    08-02-2011, 08:02 PM
Boarding is is sticky situation for both parties. You as a boarder want your horse to be top priority, have the best pasture and have free access to all the amenities that you think you deserve for your monthly payment. The BO wants to make a living - to do this the BO needs to have as many boarders as they can fit, do the least amount of work to keep everyone happy and have the least overhead. Yes, there are happy little private barns where the BO bends over backwards and treats your horse like one of their own, but there are fewer of those and they are harder to find.

One of the hardest parts of boarding is sharing with others. The more boarders the more you have to share the arenas, trails, tack, grooming, wash areas etc... But without those boarders your BO won't have the money to build that new tack room. Its a catch 22 that is an integral part of it.

When you decide on a barn you need to pick the place based on what it is the day you see it. Everyone has dream projects they want to get done when they have the time and money. The BO might have honestly thought the tack area would be done, but hasn't gotten around to it. If you are unhappy with the barn on day 1, you can't trust it will be turned around by day 3 or day 365. Be somewhere you are happy and the additions will just be icing on the cake.

As for your horse - if it is that important to you to have a buddy you might need to start looking elsewhere. Very few BOs will put horses together strictly because an owner wants them to. I would love for my 2 horses to be pastured together, but my BO has seperate mare and gelding pastures so it won't happen. Yes, you are paying for it, but there are rules that the BO makes and you either follow them or find a different barn.

Fly mask - the BO at my old barn had everyone either go without or leave it on 24/7 because he didn't want to be bothered to do it. It isn't something the BO has to do. Full service means grain/hay, turnout, clean stalls, use of facilities. It doesn't mean blanketing, fly mask, hand walking when injured etc. Some barns don't include hold for vet/farrier if you can't be there. Some charge extra for stall horses when the are on 24/7 stall due to injury because of the extra cleaning required. These are all things that should be worked out before you move your horse.

In the end, decide if you like the barn as is right now. If not, start looking for a new barn and use this as a learning experience. Ask more questions next time. If you are happy there, then stay and ask for a written contract and work out the terms. Good luck!
    08-02-2011, 08:14 PM
Livestoride, thank you for that. It puts a lot o f things in perspective. Honestly, I did ask ALOT of questions. I guess I took taking someones word for it for granted. I will definitely look at the stables better. If I don't like it when I see it then I won't be talked into stabling there.

"What you see is what you get!"

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