Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind
With the amount of extra bedding it causes you to use because the stalls get trashed it does not save you money in the long run.
Stall cleaning costs you $80/day?
I have no issues with horses staying out all night or 24/7,etc but I do not get the concept of make up turn out time.
Like so many things in life, turn out time missed does not get fixed by simply stacking the hours on to other turn out times.
Why is a stall cleaner required to be there 24/7 to clean seven days per week? Why don't you, the barn owner, clean on the 7th day so the stall cleaner gets a day off?
Wow! You must have tiny stalls, really neat horses or just really empty stalls at the end of the week.
To answer the original question, if my horse has to live in it, it better be cleaned every day.
My horses have access to their stalls (but are not closed in them) every night. (They are closed all day.) They get cleaned every day.
Horses are out during the day as much as possible. I don't allow partial or no turn out (unless there's a medical reason to be in). Why is make up turn out time such a hard concept? If you were stuck in a stall for 4 days due to really nasty storms, wouldn't you appreciate a few days out of your stall?
Not to mention I include 6 bags of shavings a month in board. I have regular 12x12 stalls with mats and stalls usually have 1/2-1" of bedding in them at any given time. If owners want more they can purchase more, not a problem.
It takes anywhere from 45 minutes - 1hr just to clean 6 stalls. Grab muck buckets, clean each stall, pdz, load muck buckets into gator and drive them across the street and put the muck buckets back in their place then put hay in each of the stalls then dump/fill water buckets and then sweep isle way. So with 18 stalls that's an average of 3.5-5 hours of work. Labor, 1.4 bag of shavings each stall, pdz, and diesel fuel $80 is about right. So it would cost boarders $18-$20 extra for 4 days of stall cleaning.
Why don't I clean stalls one day a week? Seriously? #1 I already work 7 days a week when the weather is good. #2 Why would I want to spend 5 hours of my time doing chores when I can pay someone $8.50 an hour while I can teach a lesson or do a training ride at make minimum of $40 an hour? That's absurd!
Money, for me, really isn't the issue. I can certainly pay someone to clean but I just pass along the cost to my customers like any business owner. The question here is would you rather: (Perhaps I should change the poll?) :o)
A. Let your horse stay out one night a week so the barn doesn't have to clean stalls 7 days a week and pay $20 less on my board a month. (weather permitting)
B. Rather your horse stay on schedule and come in that night and just not clean the stall that day.
C. Rather pay the extra $20 to have my horses stall cleaned 7 days a week.