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View Poll Results: Does stall cleaning 6 days a week make a difference to you?
Yes. I strongly prefer my horses stall cleaned 7 days a week 46 75.41%
No. I don't mind. Everyone needs a day off! 15 24.59%
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post #21 of 65 Old 05-12-2011, 02:11 AM
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So your issue is the cost of bedding rather than the time factor? Is stripping pulling everything out of the stall?

18 stalls should be easy to do within the hour, I used to do 25 in an hour and that was mucking out, raking through to find the manure and urine.
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post #22 of 65 Old 05-12-2011, 09:53 AM
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If the horses are out the day the stalls aren't cleaned I wouldn't have a problem with it. If the horses are standing in their own filth I would have a huge problem with it. Ammonia is very hard on horse's lungs and hooves. I honestly wouldn't be comfortable knowing my horse is standing in a barn full of ammonia. Ick.

Do you have mats in your stalls?
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I keep my guys home now and I don't muck out every single day as I rarely stand them in for long periods of time over the good months it roughly works out that there out full time 9months of the year. Ponies out full time. However that is my wn choice. But when I was boarding I expected them to be mucked out every single day as I was paying my thoery is if you get lazy mucking out what else are you getting lazy on?
However if they are used to being in full time I don't think its really fair to throw them out one night a week to make things easier for you.

The only day my horses were not mucked out boarding was in christmas day.

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I don't understand why barns have a 'day off' of cleaning stalls. It just ends up being 2 or 3 times the work the next day 'on'.
Exactly.
With the amount of extra bedding it causes you to use because the stalls get trashed it does not save you money in the long run.


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Cleaning stalls 6 days a week would save me $75-$80 x 4 days = $320 a month which translates to lower board so it is something I've considered. However, it goes against the grain for me too... I like stalls cleaned every day.
Stall cleaning costs you $80/day?

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What we've done lately with all the rain, we have is "make up" turn out time when the weather is nice where we've left horses out at night.
I have no issues with horses staying out all night or 24/7,etc but I do not get the concept of make up turn out time.
Like so many things in life, turn out time missed does not get fixed by simply stacking the hours on to other turn out times.


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We will have 18 stalls when the arena is done. I also don't have full time help living on site. Someone is there 24/7 but he's not my stall cleaner.
Why is a stall cleaner required to be there 24/7 to clean seven days per week? Why don't you, the barn owner, clean on the 7th day so the stall cleaner gets a day off?

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We don't bed deeply so we just strip which is actually faster. Right now we've been stripping stalls on Friday then add a bag of fresh bedding and then stay out Friday night so we don't clean stalls on Saturday and then they come in Saturday night. We generally add half a bag on Wednesday so by Friday they are low. It's worked out well so far. If they are in due to the rain, we still only clean once a day we just have to add more bedding sooner rather than later.
Wow! You must have tiny stalls, really neat horses or just really empty stalls at the end of the week.


To answer the original question, if my horse has to live in it, it better be cleaned every day.
My horses have access to their stalls (but are not closed in them) every night. (They are closed all day.) They get cleaned every day.
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For me stripping stalls does not save money. When I start a stall fresh I add 3-4 bags each. I then add as needed to keep that amount of beding in the stalls. I seldom add more than 1 bag per week per stall. I like to bed deep too.
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I've been at a barn that had horses in 24/7 in the winter and only cleaned stalls 4 days a week so a day off doesn't sound too horrible to me, but it really depends on the turnout situation. I don't want my horses in 24/7 standing in crap, that simple. If you don't want to clean the stall that day, turn them out all day so they aren't standing in crap - I'd rather have my horses in mud than their own feces honestly and I don't know any pastures that wouldn't offer some type of relief from mud, there are drier parts SOMEwhere...if the horse chooses to stand in mud well, I guess it doesn't bother him too much. But I'm not a fan of stalling horses period so...I may not be too helpful.

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I couldn't be at a barn that only cleaned 6 days a week. I wouldn't want my horse standing in a stall like that. I self care board and mine is always cleaned 7 days a week
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Exactly.
With the amount of extra bedding it causes you to use because the stalls get trashed it does not save you money in the long run.



Stall cleaning costs you $80/day?


I have no issues with horses staying out all night or 24/7,etc but I do not get the concept of make up turn out time.
Like so many things in life, turn out time missed does not get fixed by simply stacking the hours on to other turn out times.



Why is a stall cleaner required to be there 24/7 to clean seven days per week? Why don't you, the barn owner, clean on the 7th day so the stall cleaner gets a day off?


Wow! You must have tiny stalls, really neat horses or just really empty stalls at the end of the week.


To answer the original question, if my horse has to live in it, it better be cleaned every day.
My horses have access to their stalls (but are not closed in them) every night. (They are closed all day.) They get cleaned every day.

Horses are out during the day as much as possible. I don't allow partial or no turn out (unless there's a medical reason to be in). Why is make up turn out time such a hard concept? If you were stuck in a stall for 4 days due to really nasty storms, wouldn't you appreciate a few days out of your stall?

Not to mention I include 6 bags of shavings a month in board. I have regular 12x12 stalls with mats and stalls usually have 1/2-1" of bedding in them at any given time. If owners want more they can purchase more, not a problem.

It takes anywhere from 45 minutes - 1hr just to clean 6 stalls. Grab muck buckets, clean each stall, pdz, load muck buckets into gator and drive them across the street and put the muck buckets back in their place then put hay in each of the stalls then dump/fill water buckets and then sweep isle way. So with 18 stalls that's an average of 3.5-5 hours of work. Labor, 1.4 bag of shavings each stall, pdz, and diesel fuel $80 is about right. So it would cost boarders $18-$20 extra for 4 days of stall cleaning.

Why don't I clean stalls one day a week? Seriously? #1 I already work 7 days a week when the weather is good. #2 Why would I want to spend 5 hours of my time doing chores when I can pay someone $8.50 an hour while I can teach a lesson or do a training ride at make minimum of $40 an hour? That's absurd!

Money, for me, really isn't the issue. I can certainly pay someone to clean but I just pass along the cost to my customers like any business owner. The question here is would you rather: (Perhaps I should change the poll?) :o)

A. Let your horse stay out one night a week so the barn doesn't have to clean stalls 7 days a week and pay $20 less on my board a month. (weather permitting)

B. Rather your horse stay on schedule and come in that night and just not clean the stall that day.

C. Rather pay the extra $20 to have my horses stall cleaned 7 days a week.

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I agree with AlwaysBehind, if my horse would have to stay in the stall I would want it cleaned 7 days a week.

You would charge an extra 20$ a month to have the stall cleaned 7 days a week? That sounds a little absurd. If you don't clean it 7 days a week either way you still have a mess to clean on the day after.

Either way C would be my choice..
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I guess I just do not get the whole keep them out one night to save money thing.

If you have the ability to keep them out all night then why not simply offer that?

Your continual posts about ways to cut corners seems like you are bending over backwards to cheap out.

If you fear that your added fees because of your indoor are going to raise your board rate right out of your market then you might want to re-assess adding the indoor ring.



And no, I do not get the make-up turn out thing at all. Yes, after being cooped up in their stalls for days I can see the horses as being happy to get it. That does not equate to 'gosh I wish I could stay out for days straight to make up for the missed hours'.

Kind of like missing out on sleep. You can not just sleep for three days straight to make up for the sleep you missed while you are really busy.
Or eating even, if you miss several meals you can not just sit down and eat all those meals worth of food.
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