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    02-05-2013, 08:48 PM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
Good thing it was volts, NOT watts or amps, or she'd be dead..
Umm... A little electric lesson here. It is volts, amps and watts. Volts is the pressure pushing electricity thru. Amps is the current or flow of electricity. Watts is the work done or heat generated. All three are present.

OP - If the horses are getting shocked, there is a defect in the heater, or a crack in the wire. You aren't putting the connection of the extension cord and the heater in the water, right? That would cause a shock too.

Do you have electric fence and have the cord for the heater touching one of the fence wires? Quick story: I was filling one of the tanks and had the hose on one wire of the fence. Up came one of the horses to get a drink. As he touched the water, I heard the fence zap. It traveled along the hose to the water and thru the horse. He was hesitant to get another drink. I couldn't help laughing. Now back to your issue.

Last year we used a floating heater. It did ok but it only worked for that year. This year it didn't heat as well and there was some ice in their tank. The other problems we had were the cord wouldn't stay straight so the heater was always on the far side from the horses and the boys would play with the cord. They never pulled the heater out but could have.

This year we went to using one that goes through the drain plug. They work great and keep the whole tank ice free. Only the heating element is in the tank. No wires exposed to the horses or water.
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    02-05-2013, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by usandpets    

This year we went to using one that goes through the drain plug. They work great and keep the whole tank ice free. Only the heating element is in the tank. No wires exposed to the horses or water.
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If it ever turns to winter here again, I will look for one of those. It sounds like a good design.
     
    02-05-2013, 10:24 PM
  #23
Trained
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Originally Posted by tim62988    
Farm Innovators Multi-Use Utility Deicer, 250 Watt - 2170738 | Tractor Supply Company

We have something that looks similar but has a cover over it, and have never had problems.

I would be guessing stray voltage, but I hate braking ice because I don't know how long the horse has been out of water if you're breaking ice every day.

As far as the "don't attatch to an extension cord" make sure it's a 12/3 or a 10/3 cord and you will be fine, most people just buy cheap extension cords and drawing the amount of juice that a heater will will actually overload the cheap extension cord and create a fire hazard
That's the one I have, tough little thing & I use it in a 50 gallon trough, more than enough juice to keep the ice off. Yes always use a heavy extension cord, they even have ratings on them now.
     
    02-05-2013, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Celeste    
If it ever turns to winter here again, I will look for one of those. It sounds like a good design.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/allied-precision-2002dp-universal-drain-plug-de-icer-2170013

If a store has the drop in heaters, they probably will have the drain plug ones too. Unless it is a really small town with a really small store.
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    02-05-2013, 11:35 PM
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20 or 30 gallons is much less than what my trough will hold (although I don't know my trough's exact capacity) so that would be much easier to break. How do you fill them back up once you break the ice? Right now I only have my (large) mini horses so it wouldn't be too bad to keep them in water, but by next winter I will have a barrel pony/horse and he or she will drink much more water but by then we will hopefully have a more sufficient way (besides the hose) to fill the water.
Poundinghooves = Put a 2x4 piece of wood in your water tank. It should be long enough so that it touches the bottom of you tank and is at least a couple feet above the water level. To break the ice just get ahold of the 2x4 (that is above water level) and move it side to side. The longer length of wood above water level will give you more leverage and water doesn't freeze quite as hard to wood as it does metal. After you break the 2x4 loose you can use it as a battering ram to hit the top of the unbroken ice. To keep it from freezing thicker always fish out the pieces of ice.
You don't mention how much hose you have but I always unhook my hose and store it in my garage where I run a small heater for my dog/cat where they sleep.
     
    02-06-2013, 12:16 AM
  #26
Foal
I agree that the drain plug heater is the way to go! As I have mentioned, I only need to plug it in sometimes. I have the extension cord all hooked up & I wrap electrical tape around the joint to keep rain out of it. It is not hard to take off in the spring.
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    02-06-2013, 12:31 AM
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What do you use to break the ice?

At the farm I take a garden hoe and slam that thing in it. Breaks it in one trick. I also take a plastic collandar to take out all the small pieces of ice and the big ones I put gloves on and take those out and sling them across the pasture to break them.
     
    02-06-2013, 10:02 AM
  #28
Yearling
I also use the kind that goes in through the drain plug. It works well & I've had no problems with in. We also put our extenion cord through a pvc pipe & then tie that to the fence so that no one can try & chew on the cord
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    02-06-2013, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by littrella    
I also use the kind that goes in through the drain plug. It works well & I've had no problems with in. We also put our extenion cord through a pvc pipe & then tie that to the fence so that no one can try & chew on the cord
That's a great idea!
     
    02-06-2013, 12:04 PM
  #30
Showing
Pounding - how many horses are you watering? If you water before 8 am the horses will drink plenty. Stay there then dump out what they don't drink. If you are there at noon you might offer water but try to time the watering while still daylight. Those are the natural drinking times - after sunrise and before dark. They will be fine all day without water. For two horses I use the small rubber feed pan. They can both drink at the same time and I just refill it if if needed. It's not real heavy even if full of ice. The best item for breaking ice is an axe. If your horses are getting an imperceptable shock it won't belong before they won't go near the tank. That water heater on the extension cord will run your electricity bill thro the roof.
     

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