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        10-24-2011, 05:55 PM
    Originally Posted by bubba13    
    My question is what is the state of the fencing that the horse got tangled in? Was it a known potential hazard? Or was it a freak accident?
    The fence he got into was 4 strand barbLESS wire topped with a strand of electric on top. Majority of our T-post also have rubber toppers. We actually just tightened and check fences a week or so before because we had alot of new horses come in.

    Several months ago, he got into a 8 strand barbless wire fence with 3 strands of electric (my neighbor insisted since he sometimes has cows). Didn't get hurt accept for a couple of small minor scratches amazingly enough.
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        10-24-2011, 06:12 PM
    If you don't mention charging for emergency services in your boarding agreement, I don't think you can fairly charge her for the hour. Fact is, this is what life with horses is about and sometimes you just have to take the blows as they come. Hopefully, if you're not there one day and one of your horses suddenly colics, someone will be there to take care of it and walk it for you without a second thought.
        10-24-2011, 06:17 PM
    I would wait for her to ask then tell her whatever she thought was fair. If she didn't bring it up, I would let it go.

    If her horse is that much of a problem, I would sit her down and let her know that you can't continue to do things like that for free anymore.
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        10-24-2011, 06:26 PM
    If I were the horse owner, I would offer something as compensation. I know people don't go through the hassle of boarding just for the fun of it, it's a business too.

    Your time is money. If I was strapped and couldn't offer you monetary compensation, I would offer to do something to help you around the stable that would free you up for an hour, sort of to make up for that hour you lost keeping my horse from colicking.
        10-24-2011, 06:32 PM
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    Our BO does not charge for emergency situations...especially for 40 minutes. However, if it comes time for planned daily treatment and the horse owner wants her to do it, there would be a charge. The BO also does charge for other PLANNED help like holding for a farrier or vet in the owners absence.

    Not all of you T stakes are topped? I find that worrisome.

    Oh, and there are approx 40 horses at my barn.
        10-24-2011, 08:18 PM
    Originally Posted by SaddleOnline    
    If you don't mention charging for emergency services in your boarding agreement, I don't think you can fairly charge her for the hour.

    I agree. These things should be clear beforehand. If you want to charge, change your boarding agreement for future clients. Not much you can do for your current situation.
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        10-24-2011, 09:05 PM
    Hmmmm, well 40$ is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things... However, I think you would be better off to charge for damages that the horse has done to your fencing vice an emergency. I spend 40$ for a new bit... But I would find it callus for someone to charge me for walking my horse around. Not trying to be mean at all... I just think you would come off as petty. If you need the money it might go over better to ask if she could give you something extra since you could not give your lesson.
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        10-24-2011, 09:14 PM
    Originally Posted by ponyboy    
    I agree. These things should be clear beforehand. If you want to charge, change your boarding agreement for future clients. Not much you can do for your current situation.
    This. ^^ Plus, from what you are saying you are not consistent in who you charge for what. You didn't charge for bringing in a new horse, but you want to charge for this 40 minutes of walking a horse that you use as much as the owner? Really makes no sense.

    IMO you need to make a policy and stick to it. It does NOT have to be just for new boraders. You can give it to your current boarders in writing, amend their agreements, and be done with it.

    I have boarded a lot of places over the years, and there are very , very few that would have charged me for this. However-the one that would had a full page long price list....covered most things, and was part of the boarding agreement. It was a bit intimidating, including the late fees for board and the fact that after about a week late-they own your horse.

    Mostly I have (and prefer to) board at places where everyone is there for the horses and helps each other out. Just my preference.

    Right now one of mine is with a well respected reining trainer. My friends horse just came back from another one. Neither one would even consider charging for this. Horse is groomed, clipped, bathed, in a heated stall, indoor arena and ridden an minimum of 4 times a week, for only $300 more than what I paid at the place that had "the list". You tell me where I would rather have my horse. And I now have someone to help me every time I ride my horse. Lessons EVERY TIME included! (One lesson at the other place was $55) No comparison.
        10-24-2011, 09:54 PM
    You shouldn't charge anything at all. We horse people should stick together in situations like these. IMO, it would be wrong to try and profit off someones emergency situation. Let it go and hopefully if someone ever comes up on your horse in that shape and you aren't there that they will help you.

    As for the horse destroying property, well that is a totally different issue and should be dealt with seperatly from this one.
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        10-24-2011, 10:02 PM
    Keeping in mind that a boarding operation is a business, and your time is money I would think you need to decide what your cost and expected margin of return is for your various levels of boarding fees. If you weren't there, but an employee was, you would have to pay the employee. Generally speaking, the owner's time is more valuable than an employee's so it's still costing you money. From a busines stand point, I think it is a chargeable item - the question becomes: is it included in the monthly fees? That's when you need the contract and everyone's expectations to be clear. So maybe a standard contract would say that you or qualified staff will assist in emergency situations until the owner can get to the barn up to a maximu of "x" hours per month. Then define what are emergency situations. Also what your potential liability may or may not be -- ie. Follow the owner's instructions #1, follow the vet's instructions #2, in case either is not available to the best of your ability but you're not liable because you are not a vet (unless you are, of course :) )

    I don't understand why so many people posted that they would consider a charge unreasonable. What does a boarding fee cover then? I have no experience with it, but my impression from others has been that boarding covers cost of "room and board" -- shelter and food. That doesn't include "care" to me. However, just like there can be "pasture board" vs. "shelter board", maybe there could be a "care board". Each would be at different pricing structures.

    If I were to run a barn, I would be quite clear on exactly what my contracts cover so no one can be surprised or insulted or feel like they have to offer extra. As best as possible, these scenarios need to be covered in advance.

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