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post #1 of 46 Old 01-28-2014, 07:45 PM Thread Starter
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What are your Best money saving innovations?

Okay so,

I've got my own property and I need to make it horse worthy! I want to know everything-

is it worth it to hire a company to dig a well, or dig one yourself? What problems have you encountered?

How did you construct your run-in shelter? Were there problems down the road with any materials or construction you used?

Did you use a physical barrier fence, like wood or piping, or did you go with electric? A combination? What stands the test of time, and is the least expensive overall?

Do you store your feed and hay close to where you'll be feeding, or have it somewhat removed (for safety)? Is it a royal pain to move it?

What do you wish you had done differently? What are things that would really improve your current situation?

Thanks! Just looking for any and all good quality ideas/money saving/time saving/ SAFE innovations :)

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post #2 of 46 Old 01-29-2014, 02:52 PM
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Hi!

How exciting!

I'll offer my thoughts :)

Hire someone to dig a well - much safer and worth it in the long run.

There are lots of ways to make a run in - I've seen some people make a SMALL run-in / barn out of wood pallets! (not recommended by me). Just make sure you anchor it well and ensure that the opening doesn't face into the wind the majority of the time.

Fence ... I think cow panels stand up well with electric fence. It's an easy way to go. I love the look of wood fence, but with painting all the time, and the initial work to put it in...I don't know that it is a cheap or easy way to go. I think the easiest and cheapest fence I've seen was capped off tposts with multiple strands of the white electrical strands.

Feeding: Grains, supplements, etc. stored near the feeding area (inside) along with a good amount of square hay bales - it's just easier that way. I've seen people store hay both ways, so I think it just comes down to space and preference - and whether or not you use square or round bales.

Best idea so far - gutters running into a water tank! :)

I try to keep in mind something I've always been told, "If it's worth doing at all, it's worth doing right." However, I've always got an eye out for time and money savers too, so I'm excited to see what everyone else says!
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Okay so,

I've got my own property and I need to make it horse worthy! I want to know everything-

is it worth it to hire a company to dig a well, or dig one yourself? What problems have you encountered?

Hire somebody. Easier, safer and no worries about it getting done wrong. Jmho

How did you construct your run-in shelter? Were there problems down the road with any materials or construction you used?

we have pipe stalls on all three properties. Super cheap, built it ourselves and haven't had any problems

Did you use a physical barrier fence, like wood or piping, or did you go with electric? A combination? What stands the test of time, and is the least expensive overall?

we have a mix of pipe, panels, barbed wire and heavy duty chain link. Barbed wire (triple strand regular works too) is the cheapest for us since we have a total of 300+ acres maybe not the safest though

Do you store your feed and hay close to where you'll be feeding, or have it somewhat removed (for safety)? Is it a royal pain to move it?

We have an area near the stalls cordoned off with panels for hay and we just cover it in a tarp. Stores about a months worth. Our big hay barn is farther from the property and holds about 1500 60lb bales. We just use a wheelbarrow or our fourwheeler to move hay.

What do you wish you had done differently? What are things that would really improve your current situation?

Our biggest pain is the stalls. No gutter or irrigation systems so when it rains or snows the stalls are a mess. So a good way to keep water clear of stalls is a must.

Thanks! Just looking for any and all good quality ideas/money saving/time saving/ SAFE innovations :)
Good luck!

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post #4 of 46 Old 01-29-2014, 05:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! Lots of good info

How did you construct your stalls? I was also thinking about the drainage problem- I think that a little backfill and those rubber stabilizer matts (meant for landscaping) underneath will really help keep the barn, stalls and feed areas stay dry.

Are your stalls dirt floor? If so, did you use a free standing stall structure, only attached to the barn walls, or anchor in the ground as well?

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6 stalls 14x14.

half is covered with a slant roof and a divider in between. they're just dirt floor we didn't have the $$ to try and put mats down so we end up having to get a bobcat every year to dig the stalls out bare, lay down more sand and repeat lol.

we do have big rubber mats (old belts from the power plant" in front of the stalls and those stay nice and dry and clean just the stalls are bad.
what they really need is a gutter or some such so the water can pour out of the stalls. as they are now the pipes just lay on top of the dirt, and the stall areas are in somewhat of a depression so the water has nowhere to escape

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(sorry its the only picture i have online of the stalls)

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Hi!

How exciting!

I'll offer my thoughts :)

Hire someone to dig a well - much safer and worth it in the long run.

There are lots of ways to make a run in - I've seen some people make a SMALL run-in / barn out of wood pallets! (not recommended by me). Just make sure you anchor it well and ensure that the opening doesn't face into the wind the majority of the time.

Fence ... I think cow panels stand up well with electric fence. It's an easy way to go. I love the look of wood fence, but with painting all the time, and the initial work to put it in...I don't know that it is a cheap or easy way to go. I think the easiest and cheapest fence I've seen was capped off tposts with multiple strands of the white electrical strands.

Feeding: Grains, supplements, etc. stored near the feeding area (inside) along with a good amount of square hay bales - it's just easier that way. I've seen people store hay both ways, so I think it just comes down to space and preference - and whether or not you use square or round bales.

Best idea so far - gutters running into a water tank! :)

I try to keep in mind something I've always been told, "If it's worth doing at all, it's worth doing right." However, I've always got an eye out for time and money savers too, so I'm excited to see what everyone else says!
Thanks for your thoughts :)

The water tank idea is pretty good! I would just need to ensure that any run-off had a good escape route, and wouldn't flood the pen or anything important.. could always cut a small drainage trench to the ditch lol

Yes I have also come to the conclusion that the electric wire is cheapest... However I also want to construct a riding arena at some point. It probably won't be the best, and I'll also probably end up using it as a turn-out as well =/ Any ideas on what type of grass people most like for their arenas? I don't want to do sand- it's too expensive and too much up keep. Thinking about using that plastic strapping for the arena. Any experience with that?

For my barn/run in (haven't decided if I want an all-in-one or not) I am thinking about getting one of those metal carports, and then customize it. The metal is supposed to be rated for snow in Michigan, and I think it would end up cheaper than a small pole barn type structure or a separate run in plus small barn.
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6 stalls 14x14.

half is covered with a slant roof and a divider in between. they're just dirt floor we didn't have the $$ to try and put mats down so we end up having to get a bobcat every year to dig the stalls out bare, lay down more sand and repeat lol.

we do have big rubber mats (old belts from the power plant" in front of the stalls and those stay nice and dry and clean just the stalls are bad.
what they really need is a gutter or some such so the water can pour out of the stalls. as they are now the pipes just lay on top of the dirt, and the stall areas are in somewhat of a depression so the water has nowhere to escape

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(sorry its the only picture i have online of the stalls)
The piping is a pretty good idea :)

Are the mats really that expensive? I was browsing through a farm mag and saw some rolls for only about 2$ sq foot... they probably would cost a fortune to deliver though -.-

Gutters would def help, especially in combination with the water trough idea :)

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Around here, you can't dig a well for yourself for a water supply to be plumbed to your house. It has to be drilled by a certified water well company, inspected, all wiring, pumps, installations has to be done by certified technicians and water tested.
I don't know the laws in your area, but don't skimp on water safety, reason why we have these laws here.
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Around here, you can't dig a well for yourself for a water supply to be plumbed to your house. It has to be drilled by a certified water well company, inspected, all wiring, pumps, installations has to be done by certified technicians and water tested.
I don't know the laws in your area, but don't skimp on water safety, reason why we have these laws here.
Oh, yes, I'm well aware of that, but that is water for human consumption, and for a dwelling of any kind.

I'm talking just a shallow well for animal use; bathing, water trough, that kind of thing. The water table is pretty high here, it'd only really have to be about 20 feet deep, but I may as well get someone to dig a 50 ft if I'm even going to do that lol.

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If you already have a well, the best way (and it's not expensive) it to run a tee off your main line and have it go over to where you want the water for your horses. Put in a hydrant, that way it won't freeze and you have water all year.
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