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    02-13-2012, 09:12 PM
Green Broke
The 4 year old.

She's a bit of a nuthead. I have to take her to chiro, and soon, but I'd like to share me working her anyway...

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    02-13-2012, 10:18 PM
Green Broke
Eeer. That didn't come out how I wanted it to.

She's been acting stupid the last 3 times I've rode her, my parents told me it wasn't pain when I asked them what it looked like she was doing, and told me to just ride her through it. So, today, I went out for a little ride with her and took the camera along, so I could see for myself. Well, I had a hint last time I rode her that she was unhappy at something cause she was pinning her ears. But now that I watch the video, she's definetly SORE. As you can see, she isn't getting all up in my hands and when I get her to relax, she walks out just fine. I was stupid not to realize this earlier. I'm trying to convince my dad that it's pain and that (in his words) she can't just get "beat out of it". Welcome to my dad's training... And now he's threatening to ride her himself and "straighten her out". Well this is coming from the guy who thinks that if you make a horses mouth bleed when you're trying to get it to back up, it's cool. So, I'm just trying to keep him away from her right now. Even my mom is up for him riding her. In no way am I against being firm and agressive when you have to, but the way my dad does it.. it's very wrong.
    02-14-2012, 12:22 AM
She acts very much like my mare. First off, don't direct rein in a curb. I think you should start her back in a snaffle and get get working well in that. She its doing a lot of head tossing, trail swishing, and ear pining. Also, on the ground she seemed a little pushy maybe...don't let her push on you. And also,I'm not sure if you asking her to trot or not, but if she gets too fast I would stop her and back her up and make her stand until she relaxes. Its very possible that its some kind of mare needed a chiro...but once all pain is ruled out, snaffle, slow work, lots of direction and speed changes, keep her mind working and focused on you. Goodluck! :)
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    02-14-2012, 12:49 AM
If this is new behavior, Id get a vets okay ed her Id get a chiro out to just in case... My two 1/2 year old is amazing all the time and when she started acting funny I assumed it was just her age but she ended up being injured, something even the vet couldnt see by just walking and trotting her. Horses can hide minor injures but they can't hide them under strenuous activities, and that when the bad behavior occurs.
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    02-14-2012, 01:34 AM
Green Broke
This bit moves independently, so the little bit of direct reining I did wasn't hurting anything.

It is a new behaviour. I really want to convince my parents to rule out pain completely before trying to correct her for telling you there's something wrong.

Here's a video of her in August.

She's just odd from how she used to be. Soft, slow, listening, circles, perfect. I'm 95% sure it's pain. But then again, there's the parent's always knowing better issue.
    02-14-2012, 01:39 AM
How often do you work with her??? And for how long.. and at what point do you see a change??
    02-14-2012, 01:42 AM
Green Broke
In the summer, I worked her almost every other day, sometimes every day if the weather was okay. Each ride was no more than 3/4 hour. We did a few all day cattle drives in the fall as well.

I left her be for a while this winter, and got on her late December and she was like this. Went for a trail ride with the parents in January, and she was like this, not as bad though, just a little stupid. I rode her for 15 minutes one evening last week, and then today. I'm convinced something is hurting her.
    02-14-2012, 01:50 AM
Originally Posted by QHriderKE    
But then again, there's the parent's always knowing better.
I have the same problem, specially since I don't live with them and my horses do. They have put my horse into BAD situations ALL the time and then wonder why I charge the vet bill to them. Not to mention my dad treats them ALL the time, Grady is fat from being over fed and Hannah bits from being treated all day long and not being correct when she nibbles.
And they have to be fed separated or Grady eats Hannahs hay.. this is a bad winter for her and yet they leave the stalls open!! which reminds me I have told them a MILLION times Grady will go in there and chase Hannah out, and what do you know they call me out there a few weeks because Grady got in there an Hannah got a gash across her pretty little face, trying to get out!!!
So I feel your pain!
    02-14-2012, 01:53 AM
Green Broke
Well my dad thinks she's just being a turd. And his way of dealing with a turd is beating it. And so he wants me to do it, or else he'll get on her and do it himself. I don't let him near my horses, in all honestly, they know how to stay away from him. I'm trying to tell both of my parents that we should at least talk to the vet or the chiro person and see what they think.
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    02-14-2012, 01:55 AM
Me to. Good though with the amount and consistency =) and I would give her a break don't ride her or do anything strenuous for a couple weeks. Then when you start up again lung her or have a friend so you can really look at that gait. Work her into it slow and when you start riding again start over, walk wide turns, avoid figure eights and cantering for while this may help until you can confidence the folks other wise

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