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post #1 of 77 Old 01-04-2013, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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Am I the only one that does this?

I buy Barrel Horse World magazine at Tractor Supply, and it seems like 90 percent of my time is looking at the pictures and thinking..

"HOLY CRAP! These futurity horses look like they were bitted up and tie-down'd to the point where the tack itself forces the horse to run a pattern without any cue from the rider.."

"She won the 1D?! With THAT Position?! I could freaking do that.."

"So did she look in the mirror and think that was a good look?"

"Psh, that guy looks like he is probably a bull rider that decided to sit on a horse..my boyfriend could TOTALLY do that.."

"Oh look an article about perfecting turns...I'll put that to use....eventually...maybe"

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post #2 of 77 Old 01-04-2013, 10:00 PM
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Yeah! I just got the magazine for this month and the guy on the cover has a wire tie down on. Yuck.
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post #3 of 77 Old 01-04-2013, 10:04 PM
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Yeah, I hear you. I tend to look at all horse magazines with a very critical eye.

I tell you, some of those top level barrel racers (even some of those I've seen end up at the NFR), I thoroughly believe they just get blessed with really fast horses because their horsemanship leaves a LOT to be desired.

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post #4 of 77 Old 01-05-2013, 10:29 AM
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I don't. There are trainers/professionals who I might not agree with or I don't like how they ride, but they are winning. They're not just sitting there on that horse to win, you have to ride. It's not just luck, not everyone can ride a horse at that level and they can.
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post #5 of 77 Old 01-05-2013, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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I am rather confused with what your saying.....?

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post #6 of 77 Old 01-05-2013, 10:36 AM
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That they wouldn't be at the top if they weren't doing something right. Even if you don't agree with everything they do.
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That they wouldn't be at the top if they weren't doing something right. Even if you don't agree with everything they do.
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I agree with this.

You see a lot of those guys running with wire tie downs, man-handling the horse around the barrel, horses head almost in the sky, etc etc etc

But they win time and time again at these major futurities on good horses.

Do I agree with a lot of the things they do? No.

I am the one winning these huge barrel races? No.

So who am I to judge how they are training their horses? Nope, can't.

Plus, for a lot of those photos, most runs don't always end up being "the" perfect run. There's always going to be something the rider wishes he or she could change if they could go back, but things happen in a split second. And it doesn't have to be pretty .... it just has to be fast.

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post #8 of 77 Old 01-05-2013, 04:11 PM
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I can judge and will if I see someone riding in a wire tie down or other such nonsense. So what if they win? Is winning so important that it doesn't matter how you get there? I'm not a butterfly and rainbow fart type, but there is a line and when you're using tack that is meant to inflict pain by it's design you've crossed it and I don't care how many times you win.

ETA - Bad position is not what I'm talking about, when you're riding at those speeds (or large jumps) you aren't always going to look pretty. As long as you're effective, not a big deal. When you're using tack that is inherently painful you are going to far in your pursuit to win. Of course, that's just my opinion.

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post #9 of 77 Old 01-05-2013, 04:25 PM
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If a tie down meant the difference in me winning or not, you bet I'm going to put one on.
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post #10 of 77 Old 01-05-2013, 04:33 PM
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A wire one that is basically designed to hurt your horse? Regular tie downs do have their place when used properly, as I've read, if a horse is properly trained they will use the tie down to help balance themselves when making tight turns. Nothing wrong with that, but if you use one, why not leather?
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