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  • Stirup rubberbands/barrel racing

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    09-01-2013, 09:51 PM
  #11
Green Broke
I would suggest not banding when training, but you can do it when you compete...

Just because if you put all that money into show fees you don't want to loose because your foot came out.

But... You don't want to band all of the time or you will get used to it and wont work as hard.
     
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    09-01-2013, 10:38 PM
  #12
Green Broke
There is nothing wrong with rubber banding your feet, so long as it is done for the correct reason.

For myself, I use rubber bands for competition barrel runs when money is on the line. I didn't start wearing rubber bands until I was about 17 or 18. I very rarely lose a stirrup. Ever. But on a couple of those rare occasions, it was during a competition run. I don't want to have to waste any time trying to get my stirrup back when the winner is determined by thousands of a second, and I also don't want my lost stirrup to cause a change in my body position that might affect my horse's performance. Rubber bands are cheap "insurance" to make sure you don't lose a stirrup during competition.

I only use the very thin and very large rubber bands. Often, they break simply when I try to put them on or off, so I know they will break in the event of a fall.

Rubber bands should NOT be worn if you frequently lose a stirrup. If you frequently lose your stirrup, then something else is going wrong in your body position or leg position. The rubber band should only be used as "insurance" and not as a crutch.

As far as kids, I learned how to ride without them FIRST and so that would be my stance on rubber bands for kids. I will not let my own (future) children wear rubber bands until they are at least teenagers and have a good seat and good legs. Now, that could be swayed a little bit, say, for a 9-year-old riding for the NBHA World Youth National Championship, as an example. But as a general rule, I would say no rubber bands on kids so that they learn on their own how to keep their stirrups.

Everyone kinda does their rubber bands a little different. Here's on example: (I myself use rubber bands that are thinner than these.)

     
    09-01-2013, 11:07 PM
  #13
Green Broke
I think it is a dangerous practice and a short cut with no learning .
     
    09-01-2013, 11:45 PM
  #14
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by stevenson    
i think it is a dangerous practice and a short cut with no learning .
For everyone, stevenson? Or the 11-year-old in question?

I'm pretty sure Lindsey Sears and Martha didn't take any "short cuts" to run at the National Finals Rodeo (where winning a single round can bank you over $18,000).




And do tell how it is dangerous? Unless you're wrapping multiple THICK rubber bands around your feet (which I have never seen), they are going to break in a fall. I've never known a rubber band that can support 90 pounds without breaking (And I say 90 pounds as an example for a small barrel racer, like Lindsey Sears).
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    09-02-2013, 12:10 AM
  #15
Green Broke
Personally, if I can't run a barrel pattern without stirrups, I need to go back and get a better seat.

Even though, I've lost a stirrup on 3 runs in the past 5 years. Me missing that stirrup (in which I kicked my other off) did not effect the horse's run, same consistent time as a run with both stirrups.

I honestly do feel as though it's a shortcut, but I won't put anyone competing down for doing it. For people taking lessons and still learning, I find it absurd though. That person (child or adult) can learn how to keep their feet in the stirrups without having them banded in.

Not to mention, I don't like the way it positions your foot in the stirrup. The ball of your foot should be on the stirrup, not your arch (beau's example). I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable riding with my feet that far in the stirrup, honestly. It's not the band itself that adds a safety risk, it's the positioning of your foot in the stirrup due to the band.

But, as for the 11yo in question, good heavens NO. She can learn the proper way or get off, IMO.
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    09-02-2013, 12:23 AM
  #16
Showing
Beau, what you posted is IMHO, the only legitimate reason for banding your feet (though I still cringe when I see it for no good reason LOL).

If a person is wanting to band their feet because they can't keep their stirrups, then they need to go back to the basics of learning how to ride correctly.

I've been riding for over 25 years and while I've never run barrels competitively, much of that time was spent either working cattle or riding young horses (sometimes both). I've done work that was no different than running barrels; quick turns, hard stops, spins, flat run, etc. I've lost stirrups only a few times and those happened when I let my position get lax.
     
    09-02-2013, 01:02 AM
  #17
Weanling
I have not ever banded my feet to my stirrups, and above mentioned, I have lost a stirrup before and not had a problem. Sometimes when my horse comes through the gates or after he rounds the last barrel he pushes off very strongly with his back legs and its kinda rough and I have lost a stirrup a time or two when he's done that, but it never affected our run noticeably. I think for an 11 year old girl that would not be the smart way to go, especially if she is small weight wise. I wouldn't want to chance her coming off and getting drug. And honestly I think she probably needs to work on her seat and leg position and what not more. I think she needs to correct herself, then if she still feels like she needs to, after she's learned how to ride and what not correctly, consider it.
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    09-02-2013, 02:45 AM
  #18
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Iseul    
Personally, if I can't run a barrel pattern without stirrups, I need to go back and get a better seat.

Even though, I've lost a stirrup on 3 runs in the past 5 years. Me missing that stirrup (in which I kicked my other off) did not effect the horse's run, same consistent time as a run with both stirrups.

I honestly do feel as though it's a shortcut, but I won't put anyone competing down for doing it. For people taking lessons and still learning, I find it absurd though. That person (child or adult) can learn how to keep their feet in the stirrups without having them banded in.

Not to mention, I don't like the way it positions your foot in the stirrup. The ball of your foot should be on the stirrup, not your arch (beau's example). I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable riding with my feet that far in the stirrup, honestly. It's not the band itself that adds a safety risk, it's the positioning of your foot in the stirrup due to the band.

But, as for the 11yo in question, good heavens NO. She can learn the proper way or get off, IMO.
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My stance exactly.

If I can't ride correctly without stirrups, then I've got work to do. I personally probably won't do it.. I say probably because I don't like "never". I've been on some serious powerhouses but still haven't done it. I have a very secure leg though, probably from English experience, so I rarely lose a stirrup, but when I do it doesn't hinder my riding at all. Although, I can understand banding when in a high stakes competition as insurance. Sometimes I wonder why it's legal though, if two riders of same caliber riding, one no bands, the other with bands, one without loses a stirrup and hinders performance, and the other of same caliber would have lost stirrup but doesn't. Seems a little bit like an advantage.

Don't get me started on "magic seats" or any product people use to Velcro themselves on to a saddle.
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    09-02-2013, 02:50 AM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by beau159    
Everyone kinda does their rubber bands a little different. Here's on example: (I myself use rubber bands that are thinner than these.)

I honestly have no idea how someone could ride properly with their boot jammed so far in their stirrups.
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    09-02-2013, 10:46 AM
  #20
Showing
I ride with my feet in the "home" position and never had a problem riding properly. I guess I figure that you shouldn't have enough weight in your stirrup that where it is on your foot will effect your position.
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