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    04-18-2013, 11:36 AM
Originally Posted by amberly    
I am working on the head throwing. I give them something to do and they stop the head throwing most of the time. They are only doing that because they are trying to be scary so I won't do that. We both know better ;)
Golley's issue with the head throwing is his bridle. But we are getting him a new one ASAP too.

Thank you for the advice everyone!

Yea, my horses know the area, just not the horses - that is my main issue. But they are usually really good about that. Once I give them a job to do, they hardly even look at the other horses.
I just want to point out that a well-trained horse should listen to you ALL the time .... not most of the time. If you let them get away with it once in a while, you might as well let them get away with it all the time, because it amounts to the same.

In addition to the dentist, has either horse been checked by a chiropractor? That can cause head throwing issues.
How about saddle fit? That can cause it too.
Of course, we want to make sure there isn't a pain issue behind the head throwing, before we attribute it to a behavior problem.
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    04-18-2013, 01:59 PM
No, he doesn't get away with it. Every time he does it I make him work hard until he stops. He's learning - just slowly.
We did have a saddle issue before, but we have that fixed. Brisco's original one was too small. But we put Golley's on him and it fits very nicely on both horses. So we use the new one for brisco and golley is continuing to use his old one.
We have never had them checked by the chiropractor - they don't need because they don't have any issues with their muscles or tightness, etc.
Like I said before (Or I think so, ;P) there is no pain issues behind this, just them trying to be bossy. But I have never nor will I allow them to get away with it. Haha!! Brisco is old, and the past owners didn't do too well with him - but Brisco is turning out very nicely and a much better horse than when he waas my mom's main horse.
My mother got a new one, So Brisco is now mine and we share golley with everyone. Golley would listen to a toddler, so I am not worried about him with anything. Both of their health is fine and they are turning out very good.
    04-18-2013, 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by amberly    
We have never had them checked by the chiropractor - they don't need because they don't have any issues with their muscles or tightness, etc.
Are you a chiropractor? If not, how do you know?

Just curious.

BTW, equine massage therapy treats muscles and tightness whereas chiropractry involves the spine and vertebrae misalignments (which in a round-about way, can cause secondary muscle soreness). If you've got vertebrae out of line, no amount of massage will fix it ... until you fix the root problem of misalignment. It's fine if you don't believe in chiropractors, since some people don't, but I wouldn't go so far to say your horses don't have pain if you've never actually had them checked by a trained and experienced professional. (Because heaven knows there are "wanna be" chiro's out there who did nothing more than take a 6 week course and have no business working on a horse.)
    04-18-2013, 06:08 PM
Id like to see a video of him throwing his head up..

What bit you usin?

I used to ride quite a few stubborn horses thet would throw their heads up when they didnt want to do somethin-- the hubbys horsell do it with him sometimes and has don't it with his friend but wont do that with me.. I keep a low hand and im very calm and clear with my cues-- I ride him in a full cheek snaffle, but if I do ride him in a halter he will throw his head up when he's misbehaving and hell try n ignore me...i have him under controll but hell try and I don't like that-- back in the bit he goes, lol.
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    04-19-2013, 10:23 AM
@Baeu and toto: I've been saying this over and over - I know what the issue is for the head throwing. I am fixing slowly but surely. But thank you.
    04-21-2013, 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by amberly    
@Baeu and toto: I've been saying this over and over - I know what the issue is for the head throwing. I am fixing slowly but surely. But thank you.
That's just like saying you know you don't have high blood pressure .... yet you've never gone in to get a blood pressure reading.

If you have never had something checked by a medical professional (example: chiropractor) then you do not know.

I'm going to quit talking to the wall now, because I guess you don't need our help anyway. Just please don't run your horses at a barrel race until they are ready. At this point, they are not.
    04-21-2013, 07:15 PM
Thank you.

I know they are not ready.

Thanks for all the opinions everyone.

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