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post #11 of 39 Old 09-21-2010, 08:22 PM
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You can do the same thing with leg.

What I'm sure Smrobs is mostly talking about is the girls we see whipping like their life depends on it between barrels and on the home stretch when their horse is already running his heart out.
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ah okay. I just don't find that stuff necessary, or, I hope to believe it is not. If I wanted my horse to run barrels, I would hope we would have enough of a bond and communication to do it alone. I don't think spurs, harsh bits, and whips aren't necessary. But it seems a lot of barrel racers do this. And they also think kicking the horse from their legs a mile high in the air flapping like a bird helps also when it just looks hilarious and hideous.

In a way, it makes the sport look very trashy.

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Exactly, Spastic, thank you for clarifying. When the whip/crop is used as an aid to help in turning or whatever as an extension of your leg, that's different. What I hate is seeing those girls that use an over/under or whip with every bit of their strength anytime the horse isn't turning.

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It's not necessary.

Don't judge us all on the girls who are trying to take flight from their saddle! :P
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One of my peeves is seeing the "fly-away legs" with spurs(I see this ALOT at local shows), and then direct reining around the barrels with a wonder bit. I can't even watch BR at the local level around here. It is trash.
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Shoot, what I see at some of the PRCA sanctioned rodeos around here isn't much better.

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Exactly, Spastic, thank you for clarifying. When the whip/crop is used as an aid to help in turning or whatever as an extension of your leg, that's different. What I hate is seeing those girls that use an over/under or whip with every bit of their strength anytime the horse isn't turning.
Ok I see what you were saying now but I have only used over unders on lazy horses buy I don't whip the crap outta the horse. As for a whip I only use one around barrels to make some horses turn deeper, like I said before.
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On your point sunny - I've never understood why so many use curbs when you rarely see a pattern run without direct reining. Makes me cringe.
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My point exactly, WS. And BR7335, honestly, a "lazy" horse shouldn't be a barrel racer.
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I think the moderate use of a whip or an over-and-under is fine for those horses that need the little reminder to dig just a little deeper and run just a little faster. Let's face it: Not all horses are NFR champions. Some of them do need that little bit of encouragement.

I relate to this from when I played basketball in high school. It's not that I was dragging my butt up and down the court in the first place (rather, I was working my tail off), but when the coach hollers out some instructions, it usually gives me an extra burst of adrenaline to push harder and execute the plan.

Now about the people (men and women) who are exessively whipping and using their over-and-under, or doing huge kicks with large spurs on their boots, I do not agree with that. THAT is beating the dead horse.

I think it depends on the situation and the individual rider and the individual horse. When used correctly, I think whips or over-and-unders are fine.
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