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Is it bloodlines, training, or heart that makes a barrel horse?

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    03-20-2012, 06:16 PM
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Foal
Is it bloodlines, training, or heart that makes a barrel horse?

Before you say ALL, hear me out. I grew up around horses but never on a rich horse farm. Our horses were quarter horses that were ranch horses. I always competed in the town shows and I won several ribbons, but... it's not the same. I had a colt 3 years ago. He is just over 14h (not fully grown, remember) and he is very agile. But he didn't come from lines and lines of pro horses. I don't want to travel all over the you.S to compete, I'm just wondering if it's possible to train a horse to a high level of competing? He has an attitude that's for sure. If a horse has ever been stuck up it's him, he is so competitive in everything already. So with lots of work exactly how possible is it to have him be a great competitor? He is a quarter/paint cross, this is the front of his body if you can determine based on that.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...623111154a.jpg
Forgot that I don't want to go pro, I want a college competing horse. But college is just under pro so some of those people have horses worth more than my house.


I put this in training too since my horse isn't broken yet and I haven't decided exactly what I should focus on.
     
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    03-20-2012, 06:23 PM
  #2
Foal
He's really pretty! O:
     
    03-20-2012, 06:26 PM
  #3
Foal
Thanks! Maybe he would win a beauty contest ;) jk. He came out of a jet black mare and the stud only had one blue eye.. I don't know how it happened.
     
    03-20-2012, 06:49 PM
  #4
Foal
That's really funny, kind of like my dog both parents were tri-colored border collies and he was the only one out of 10 that came out all black and white, but I think all horses have a potential at anything as long as they are willing. I guess bloodlines work. My instructor got a horse for free she had the bloodlines as a jumping horse but her owner starved her and beat her to death. It made her scared of everything. She is now with one of my really good friends and is a barrel and pole horse running barrels in the 15's and 20's in poles. So you're horse could possible do what ever he wanted who knows he may be the next top roping horse, mostly the heart makes a good barrel horse.
     
    03-20-2012, 07:08 PM
  #5
Trained
I'd love to see some side shots and a rear shot as well.

Conformation and lines aren't necessarily everything...But any physical hinderances could dramatically set back his ability. Some horses can overcome them though.

Any horse can barrel race. Only the ones with the heart can do it well. A combination of all (Lines, Confo, Training, Heart) would make one barrel horse that couldn't be stopped. But there are few, if any, that are like that. Even the pro horses have faults.

If your horse shows the potential for it, there is no reason why not.
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    03-20-2012, 07:22 PM
  #6
Yearling
I would say heart and conformation play the biggest role. Conformation doesn't have to be perfect, but some flaws can hold a horse back from their full potential. If a horse has the heart for something they are going to do well in that something, unless physically they can't be competitive. Bloodlines are a good determining factor on what your horse may be good at but its not always true. I've known horses completely bred for barrels, and they just weren't into doing them. And others who have no barrel lines at all who are doing just fine and winning in it. When buying a prospect I would rather buy a horse with a good barrel pedigree just because if it happened to not work out, it's still worth more. But I think as long as your horse has the mindset, good build, and the heart for it that's all that really matters.
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    03-20-2012, 08:09 PM
  #7
Trained
Heart, Conformation and Training.

I personally don't base too much off the bloodlines. The 1D barrel horse that I'm leasing for 2012 cost her owners $50 for the stud fee. She's grade and 14 hands. She's had great, slow, consistent training...she's got a huge heart and a love for running and giving her all, and she's built like a brick house. She doesn't have the greatest conformation, she's extremely downhill, but she's all muscle and is powerful.

My mare, has decent bloodlines...She does have some racehorse breeding to her, quite a few AA and AAA horses in there. And she is a money winner too. Her times are just off of the grade mare I ride, she could probably beat her if she's conditioned right.

I'd prefer to have a horse with a heart of gold that has the will to win, the conformation to get us there...I can't have a unsound horse, and the correct training on it. Bad training is very noticeable, we've all seen it, and I don't want to be "that person". You can have the fastest horse in the world, but until it's trained right, you won't get anywhere on it.

Having a horse that is bred to run ontop of the other 3, is a bonus in my book.
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    03-20-2012, 08:30 PM
  #8
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I think the training and confo are the most important things but if the horse has no heart or does not love their job then it does not matter what kind of confo or training they have.

Bloodlines are not that important to me but then again I look for them at the same time....at this point bloodlines are easier to sell.


CLaPorte432 I could not have said it any better then how you did!

"I'd prefer to have a horse with a heart of gold that has the will to win, the conformation to get us there...I can't have a unsound horse, and the correct training on it. Bad training is very noticeable, we've all seen it, and I don't want to be "that person". You can have the fastest horse in the world, but until it's trained right, you won't get anywhere on it."
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    03-20-2012, 10:05 PM
  #9
Yearling
Completely forgot about the training part...
Obviously you can have the perfect conformed horse with great breeding and a heart of gold for barrels, that's not going to do anything without good training. Like in any discipline training is essential. And so is the riding, as a rider you can make or break how your horse does. If you want your horse to perform to the best of their abilities, you have to be performing your best too.
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    03-20-2012, 11:23 PM
  #10
Green Broke
I completely agree with what the others have already posted..Bloodlines are a plus but they aren't everything..

Just have to add, if he isn't "broke" yet I would make sure he is completely trained and push button in everything before putting him on barrels..
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