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post #11 of 18 Old 01-25-2012, 06:32 PM
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lol i messaged you already!!

ok... no more taking over the thread! :)
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post #12 of 18 Old 01-27-2012, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by JustaSkippenJess View Post
DrumRunner had some really good points... just to put my 2 sense in for what it's worth :)

For sure get that pattern shrunk down, to at least half that size. Your horse doesn't need to lope the entire time, but rather work on the rate points, body position and over all turns.

Overall your first barrel looks pretty good in all your videos. Like DrumRunner said make sure and keep your body from leaning either in or out, that will just help your horse keep his body position correct.

Your second barrel, he is floating his butt out, which means he isn't engaging his hind end for the rate, he working off his front end. One of the biggest things I learned at a Kelly Kaminski clinic was when you go into your pocket, at your rate spot, stop your horse and ask for ONLY his hind end to make a small step to the inside, meaning your horse should be in a slight curved shape. What this does is it teaches the horse that instead of throwing their shoulder's into the barrel they throw their hind end into the inside which in turn lets them work off that hind inside foot quicker and smoother.

Over all the videos all lead to the same thing... do some more slower work. work in a long trot by going into your barrels and asking for a stop at your rate spot, tip the hip inside and move one. Another big thing is when you ask for your stop at your rate spot and tip the hip inside, when you go to move forward move STRAIGHT forward THEN ask for them to come around, that teaches them not to come back on top of the barrel on the backside of the barrels.

On your second barrel when he is coming in at the odd angle, my mare used to do the same thing. You really need to make sure he is moving STRAIGHT into the pocket. What i did was change it up on my mare, when you come off your first and move on to second if he starts to cheat you make him go all the way to the fence and stop straight, turn to the right, go back to first and do it again until he stops cheating you into the second then allow him to make the turn into second when he stops diving.

He seems really quiet and make sure you dont add too much speed too fast! You guys are doing very well and there is always a lot to the barrel pattern and you guys will pick it up fast!

Good luck :)
thanks for all the pointers! I will let you know how it goes from here!
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post #13 of 18 Old 02-01-2012, 01:33 AM
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you are very welcome! i am sure you guys will be awesome! keep us all posted :)

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post #14 of 18 Old 02-03-2012, 02:48 AM
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I only watched your first video, so I am only going to critic your first video.

First thing I noticed going into the first barrel is your horse does not have much rate.
You really want to teach him where to start rating before adding any speed.

The second thing I noticed in between you first and second is that he is waiting until the last minute before he switches leads.
You want to try and get him to pick up his left lead no latter then about mid way between your first and second barrel, this is probably why you seem to have more of an issue with the 2nd barrel more then the others because he is getting his feet all mixed up. This is a problem you need to fix ASAP because it could lead to some terrible issues in the future.

Also, the third thing I wanted to tell you is that your hand positioning and seat all look great but try to start picking him up around the barrels instead of pulling him around. Pulling him around while he is still learning can lead to a horse that will start dropping into his turns, teaching him to pick him self up into and around the turns now while he is learning will lead to a very easy horse to run once he is finished.

Always remember to go slow and take it easy, do not worry about the speed right now. What is most important is him knowing how to do it properly at a slow pace, when he is ready and with time the speed will come.

(note: I did not read through the other comments before I posted this so sorry if I repeated anything anyone else said)

Edit: Another thing I would recommend is to not just do the pattern over and over. Its best to change it up. Right now your biggest thing to get down is him knowing how and where to place his body going into and around the barrels. Try making random patterns with different amounts of barrels, different spacing in between, turning on different sides as well. You don't want to burn him out or bore him before you even get started. Of course you want to start slow and over time move up a notch in speed. I think this would be the best thing for you to do until he gets his turning down and you get it down as well :)

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post #15 of 18 Old 02-03-2012, 03:04 AM
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I also wanted to add that because of the current way you are pulling him around his barrel he is already trying to cheat you, like you said here "He does go around the first part of the barrel very well, sometimes he gets way to tight and then he doesn't want to finish through the second half of the barrel". This is the first signs of him already trying to cheat you. Do not allow him to pivot/roll back on his back feet on the back of the barrel or drop into the turn, keep his body rounded and his shoulder picked up the entire way around the barrel. It will also be beneficial if you make him complete his turns while he is still learning.

Here is a video that kind of demonstrates what I am trying to say. (do not judge to harsh this is a little old and I am not perfect my hand placement is high) but do you see how my mare finishes her turn almost completely before I ask her to more over and run out? This will help prevent your guy from cheat the end of his turns in the future and trying to run out before it is time or swinging out wide. (by the way I am the one in the blue shirt 2nd and 3rd goes)

(also this was the first show for both of these horse, the first duo was not the horse or the riders first show just first show together....this was not my first show but it was my mares first show)

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post #16 of 18 Old 02-03-2012, 10:12 AM
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Oh it's Nikki and I! Our very first show together...Don't you just love Wendi's commentary? lol

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post #17 of 18 Old 02-08-2012, 01:52 PM
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Why were the times so slow if these were the proper way to do it.....just sayin
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post #18 of 18 Old 02-08-2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BarrelBlaster View Post
Why were the times so slow if these were the proper way to do it.....just sayin
The times were not what I would call slow.
This was also only exhibition.
Also if you will read what I posted under the video about it being my mares first ever show and the first horse and riders first show together then maybe you will understand.
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