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post #21 of 46 Old 11-29-2013, 10:43 PM
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OK, folks. She understands that we don't approve of working such a young horse. We don't need to go on about this.

Now, if some of our barrel racers can get beyond this and offer some position/tack/turn advice, we may bring something positive away from this.

Please, let's not belabor the point that has been made so that we lose a new member who can really benefit from the good advice on this forum!!
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post #22 of 46 Old 11-29-2013, 11:16 PM
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Alright.

She is only 3.

So, put a snaffle back in her mouth, put away the barrels, hang up the whip, and go back to dry work. You can say its all perfect and good, but she's 3, if you think she is perfect, there is going to be holes that show up later as she would have been pushed too far for her age and too quickly.

What she needs is some nice light miles, trails in particular. Go out in a field and work on body control, moving the hip and shoulder independently, softness throughout the body, get her working off of your seat more than anything else, teach her how to leg yeild, side pass, counter arc, get her nice and soft in the bridle.
Stay at a walk or a trot.
You can also work on loping biiiiiiiiiiig sweeping circles, picking up correct leads as you as for them, get all of her transtions nice and smooth.

Then, in Spring or so, bring out the barrels again when she is physically ready for barrel work.

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post #23 of 46 Old 11-30-2013, 12:04 AM
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Running your girl will ruin her at this age =/ I know because my horse was worked and ran at age 4 as a barrel horse. Now my horse has an attitude issue,granted her neck has been out but she has been worked too hard too fast at that age. Even her new osteopath can tell by just looking and feeling her body.You don't want that for your mare..let her be a horse and find riding enjoyable. Your horse shouldn't be running the pattern at this age. I know three yr olds who are just being introduced to barrels and then put away and occasionally show them barrels again. You will overwork her mind.
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post #24 of 46 Old 11-30-2013, 12:09 AM
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If I don't whip her at the canter she'll try to cut the turn instead of taking the extra step around. It has nothing to to with asking for speed. I don't want to get her un the habit of cutting the turn and knocking barrels when I actually do start running her. If I was asking for speed I'd tap her between barrels and at the beginning of the run.

Although I disagree with running her I thought I would ask if maybe you are patterning her for the standard or small? Do you do both or one more than the other? I noticed my mare prefers the small over standard because I normally practice the small due to arena size...she may be rating too early because of this.
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Nobody is listening to what I'm saying.
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Alright.

She is only 3.

So, put a snaffle back in her mouth, put away the barrels, hang up the whip, and go back to dry work. You can say its all perfect and good, but she's 3, if you think she is perfect, there is going to be holes that show up later as she would have been pushed too far for her age and too quickly.

What she needs is some nice light miles, trails in particular. Go out in a field and work on body control, moving the hip and shoulder independently, softness throughout the body, get her working off of your seat more than anything else, teach her how to leg yeild, side pass, counter arc, get her nice and soft in the bridle.
Stay at a walk or a trot.
You can also work on loping biiiiiiiiiiig sweeping circles, picking up correct leads as you as for them, get all of her transtions nice and smooth.

Then, in Spring or so, bring out the barrels again when she is physically ready for barrel work.

I do all of that with her. If you read my replies you would see that I've only ran her a handful of times. All I ride her in is a snaffle, accept for the handful of times I've ran her. I know what I'm doing. Shes a very broke horse. Knows all of the exercises your talking about, including flying lead changes. She picks things up super fast. I'd appreciate if you'd actually read my responses instead of containing on going on about how running her is bad. I know. That's why I've only ran her a couple of times for fun. But if I canter barrels I'm going to make her do it right and not die on me. You guys seem to think she just turned 3, when if you read my replies you'd realize she's pretty much 4.
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post #27 of 46 Old 11-30-2013, 06:55 AM
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Seriously? She just put a nice long detailed response of things you should work on and you still get an attitude. You come onto a board like this for advice, so take it. Everyone has told you their thoughts and you've been nothing but defensive, arguing with everyone. All I'm saying is just to consider doing what has been suggested and take her off barrels for a little while and work her elsewhere. You'll end up with a better, more sound horse in the long run. Barely 4 year a old is still too young to run.
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post #28 of 46 Old 11-30-2013, 08:12 AM
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Wrong forum to post on. I start all mine at 3 on barrels, slow letting them pick up the pace thselves. The majority of the barrel world does. Some are pushed to hard for futurities, but not not every one.

I'm not going to critique the video other than she handles herself well. I don't do any of the gaming events. Just barrels and poles.
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post #29 of 46 Old 11-30-2013, 08:34 AM
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I don't do barrels or anything like that but I do feel she is young as we don't even break ours untill they are 4. But you say your not pushing her just be careful....
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post #30 of 46 Old 11-30-2013, 09:16 AM
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I do all of that with her. If you read my replies you would see that I've only ran her a handful of times. All I ride her in is a snaffle, accept for the handful of times I've ran her. I know what I'm doing. Shes a very broke horse. Knows all of the exercises your talking about, including flying lead changes. She picks things up super fast. I'd appreciate if you'd actually read my responses instead of containing on going on about how running her is bad. I know. That's why I've only ran her a couple of times for fun. But if I canter barrels I'm going to make her do it right and not die on me. You guys seem to think she just turned 3, when if you read my replies you'd realize she's pretty much 4.
I don't care how "fast" she picks things up. Being "very broke" takes time.
Did you start her at 2?
Doing barrel turns (at a lope especially) on a horse that young (even just lots of repetitive small circles) is hard on a young horses joints all over its body because they are not fully developed. Which can, and quite possibly will, lead to soundness issues down the road. Young bodies cannot deal with repetitive strain.

You are just going to argue with any critiques or advice given to you.
Just carry on as you seem to know everything there is know.

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