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Do I need a rear cinch?

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  • When do you need a breast collar and rear cinch?
  • Why do barrel saddles have a cinch

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    09-16-2012, 12:49 PM
  #1
Foal
Do I need a rear cinch?

When I bought my current barrel saddle it came with a rear cinch attached. The lady that I ride with (who is helping me train my horse) said I didn't need it so I took it off. None of her horses go with one either. But at a show last weekend someone asked why I don't use one. And I noticed a lot of other people use them when running. We are just beginning the lope the patterns and I also do some trail riding (nothing very rough though). What are your thoughts on using a rear cinch?
     
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    09-16-2012, 01:33 PM
  #2
Yearling
I personally don't run in one because for some reason my spur always catches and gets caught in it.

But if I am riding colts they ALWAYS have one on. And if we are riding out or chasing cows I will throw one on because we will be going up and down pretty tough terrain.

It is all personal preference.
     
    09-16-2012, 04:20 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Personal preference but I don't ride without one.
     
    09-16-2012, 10:02 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Depends what you are doing.

For example, for barrel racing, you do not HAVE to have one. It's a personal preference and a tack option.

But if you are doing some serious trail riding with steep terrain, for example, you will need a back cinch as well as a breast collar as well as a crupper, possibly.
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    09-16-2012, 10:35 PM
  #5
Green Broke
The purpose of the back cinch is to keep the back of the saddle from going up and coming back down on the horses back. Usually it is not needed, especially if you sit well in the saddle. Most of the people that I see using them have it too loose to be effective. More times than not, it is so loose that if the horse kicked at its belly, the back hoof could get caught in it. If that's the case, you may as well not use one. I always have it fairly snug when I put the saddle on. As the horse tightens its ab muscles, the cinch becomes looser but doesn't hang down.
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    09-16-2012, 10:46 PM
  #6
Foal
The only time I use them is when I put a saddle on a horse the first few times., that way if they decide to buck they don't get freaked out or sore by the saddle bouncing up and down on their back. Otherwise, nope. If your trails have a lot of hills I would recommend a breast collar.

Edit: by the first few times I mean the first few times they have a saddle on. I didn't word that very well lol
     
    09-17-2012, 12:48 AM
  #7
Showing
Personally, I never ride a horse without one. For me, not only is it a training issue (I need them to be used to pretty much whatever type of tack they might eventually wear someday), but it's a safety/comfort issue too. A back cinch just keeps the saddle that much more secure on the horse's back. There is less movement in the tree and, therefore, less chance of the horse getting pinched or sored from the saddle rocking on their back while riding.

Another thing to consider is how the saddle is rigged. If it is a full or 7/8ths rigging, then you really should use a back cinch for anything other than leisurely trail rides on flat ground. On those saddles, any sort of downhill work or work with quick speed changes or turns can cause the saddle to tip forward as the back of the saddle comes up. When that happens, the front of the bars dig into the horse's shoulders and can cause some real problems. If it has a 3/4 rigging, then the pressure on the tree is more balanced between front and back and you probably wouldn't need to use a back cinch.

You can see the differences between the riggings here.
Western Saddle Rigging
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    09-17-2012, 01:08 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Smrobs, you do such an awesome job at explaining things.
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    09-17-2012, 12:51 PM
  #9
Foal
Thanks so much!!! My saddle has the 7/8th rigging. Guess I'm going to put the rear cinch back on. Thankfully my boy didn't week very concerned by it the first few times when I still had it on.
     
    09-17-2012, 01:25 PM
  #10
Showing
If you keep your bum in the saddle and sit upright when going down hill there is no way your saddle can lift. The rear cinch is used mainly for roping because of the torque on the saddle when a large calf hits the rope. Because the pull is forward and down this is about the only time a saddle will lift even when the rider is seated. Unless riding in open country, no bush trails, the less paraphenalia on the the horse to have a branch catch in the better. If you are riding steep hills it is much easier on the horse to go downhill in a zig zag pattern to reduce the steepness of the incline.
     

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