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    01-07-2013, 02:20 PM
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Foal
Future barrel horse?

Do you think he would be a good barrel horse. Also are there any training tips I can get, he is not broke. He is bred for speed the great grandson of go man go. I am not an AQHA member if you wanna look up his pedigree his number is AQHA # X0664994. He is 15.0hh, 1100lbs, 7yrs.
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    01-07-2013, 02:44 PM
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Yearling
-Ewe Necked
-Straighter Shoulder
-Longer Back
-Ok hip
-Low set Hocks
-Decent Pasterns

The scar on his leg looks like Scar Tissue that was never properly taken care of.

I think he will be fine to mess around with, he isn't going to make a super hard competitor. He doesn't have horrid conformation, just some things that won't make him that top notch barrel horse if that is what your looking for.
     
    01-07-2013, 03:16 PM
  #3
Foal
Well he is going to be my first barrel horse, so I am not looking for a champion horse, just something to get started on. I just don't want it to be a complete waste of time. His is the great grandson of go man go, and his is hot, he wants to move that is what I like best about him. My previous horse I trained with help from an expert for barrels knew that patten, but just did not want to run. Thanks for the comment!
     
    01-07-2013, 03:56 PM
  #4
Weanling
Start off with reining training, and THEN start on the barrelwork. The best barrel horses are the ones who can bend and are soft...and a good stop is always a good thing
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    01-07-2013, 05:22 PM
  #5
Foal
I think he will be good for what you do. Make sure you find a bit that works for him is my number 1 tip today a bit that allows him to run his best.
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    01-07-2013, 05:48 PM
  #6
Foal
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I think he will be good for what you do. Make sure you find a bit that works for him is my number 1 tip today a bit that allows him to run his best.
I am assuming this is found through trial and error. I was planning on starting out with a simple o-ring snaffle, I was also told a running gag works good for barrel prospects after basic training is done. When I broke my first horse for barrels I used a sliding gag bit, because the trainer advised that it encouraged proper head set, and vertical/ horizontal flexion, but he said never ever use it when running at a show, he recommend using a ported shank bit. What is your opinion on that? I just inherited a ton of tack and bits from an uncle who won in reining, but is now retired, some of the bits he gave me i've never seen before and I really don't know what their for. Ill post some pic maybe you or someone can help me with that.
     
    01-07-2013, 06:00 PM
  #7
Yearling
When I am training a prospect I keep them in the snaffle as long as possible, some horses move out of it faster while others stay in it longer just depends on the horse. I am not a big gag person.....to me the less gag the better BUT that is JMO and what works for our program and personal preference.

The next step up bit is usually a light shanked bit with NO port. I the next step for me is one of the following: Easy 5, Jr. Cowhorse, Tender Touch, Sherry Cervi. I like to try and keep the bit as light as possible without doing more harm then good (using a light bit on a obviously pushy horse is just going to create a tug-of-war. Which defeats the purpose of using it).
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    01-07-2013, 07:09 PM
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Foal
Also do you recommend using a curb chain? And when leading a very green and hot horse do you recommend using a stud chain?

So I posted two shank bits with ports that I got but don't know why I would use them, and the running gag that i've used but don't like, and a tom thumb that i've never used before and don't know why you would use it?

Also I was thinking about using a twisted wire snaffle, I've never used one on my horse, but I rode a horse that was riding in it and I liked it.
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    01-07-2013, 07:36 PM
  #9
Yearling
I always use a chin strap....most of the time chain but I have recently made some braided poly rope ones for my everday light bits and keep the chain ones for my running bridles. Some I have adjusted tighter while others are super loose, just depends on the horse and how they are running.

For the bits you posted....I wouldn't really use any of them. I am not a fan of the solid shank ported bit because they don't have much give of the shanks individually. I would NEVER use a TT and will NEVER have one in our tackroom. And I would not use the combination bit....THAT one is pretty severe and I wouldn't use it. So really I wouldn't use any of the bits you posted.

A twisted wire depends a lot on YOUR hands....I wouldn't recommend you use one of your heavy handed. Also depends on the horse....we start all our horses in a smooth mouth snaffle and I eventually go to the medium twisted with a dog bone. BUT that is just the preferred bit I like after they have the initial 30 days of riding on them. From there they stay in that snaffle till they are well into their training on the pattern....so a good 2 1/2yrs +.

I don't lead any of my horse in a stud chain......all my horses walk beside me calmly. I use knotted rope halters, and would do lots of ground work to establish SPACE and RESPECT on the lead. I don't tolerate a horse that leads me, or runs me over, ect. They get a serious Comin to Jesus meeting and realize when I want them behind me I MEAN IT....So do some ground work and get the horses respect 100%
     
    01-07-2013, 07:37 PM
  #10
Trained
No, no and no.

No twisted wire snaffle. No tom thumb. No major curb with huge shanks. This horse needs SLOW work in the gentlest bit you can find.

The way that your going, your going to ruin this horse before he reaches 60 days.

Find a trainer and get help training this horse.
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