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        01-07-2013, 09:00 PM
      #11
    Foal
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    No, no and no.

    No twisted wire snaffle. No tom thumb. No major curb with huge shanks. This horse needs SLOW work in the gentlest bit you can find.

    The way that your going, your going to ruin this horse before he reaches 60 days.

    Find a trainer and get help training this horse.
    I always use a o-ring snaffle on a green horse no matter what, I was talking about after he was trained. I posted those pics because I inherited these bits and I don't know what there for, I was not planning on using them. However, one bit that I love, is the sweet water bit FOR A BROKE HORSE mind you. I was given one for my appy by a race horse trainer with 20+ track years and it worked wonders. This trainer also said he would help, being that he has tons of experience with hot horses. I also have a cousin that is big into the horse industry who gives me pointers. I also have successful basic trained (walk-trot-lope-side pass-roll overs-back- sliding stops) three 3-4 years old who have turned out to be great horses, they were not mine I did it for friends who did not have time. I also use Pat Parelli techniques, with some Clinton Anderson mixed in.
         
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        01-08-2013, 02:39 AM
      #12
    Foal
    I start my horses in a snaffle than work my way up and I always try to stay away from gag bits there is a reason they are called gag bits!
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        01-08-2013, 05:51 AM
      #13
    Trained
    Why do you stay away from gag bits? Gags get an awful rep because of the picture they paint with the name but can actually be mild. They just place pressure in different places than say a solid shank bit or a snaffle.

    Anyway back to the OP.

    I would not get this colt with the experience you say you have. A lot of people go through several colts before they get it right, and getting started in a new sport with a green horse is not only going to take you a lot of time and effort until he is ready to run a long time from now. We're talking solid foundation which depending on this horse could take 60 days or it could take 120 days of riding, and even then you don't know if this colt is going to have the mind to stay with this activity and you won't know what a finished horse feels like, so you won't always catch those little things that colts do when first started on the pattern. Then even if he does take to it well, we're talking another year of seasoning and hauling and getting him used to things. Months and months of slow work before adding speed, then when you add speed you have to work out those kinks as well on top of all the seasoning. It's a process, there's a reason any good barrel horse is going to get sold for a lot of money.

    I would recommend passing on this one and finding something at least started correctly loping the pattern, if not finished and broke which would be ideal.
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        01-08-2013, 12:01 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Thank you sorrel horse for the comment! It was an eye opener, and I really appreciate it. I have every intention of going slow and correct, this horse is 7yrs old and that is alot of wasted time it is almost a sin, but I am not a competitive type of person and I am not going to just run the patten until I get it right(which would never happen), I do have some sense, and I am not stubborn. I have already bought this horse, and unfortunately he is all I had money for because I sold my last horse to a horse rescue for a adopted Russian girl who's horse just had a heart attack and is now retired, for a major discount. I know that does not change that fact of the matter, but I am not in a hurry to start running barrels, and I now think I am going to attend a barrel practice every Wednesday that is local to get help from experienced barrel racers, get pointers and maybe get a feel for what a trained barrel horse is like. I am going to try to do this a proper and correct as possible , and that is the main reason I am asking for advice on this site.
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        01-08-2013, 03:06 PM
      #15
    Trained
    Okay, it sounds like you have a lot of sense when it comes to this. I'm sure things will go fine so long as you take it slow. Sherry Cervi, Fallon Taylor, and Martha Josey have a lot of good training videos on youtube and then you can look up some of the reining trainers on there too that teach a lot of good stuff that are critical to a barrel horse's foundation and body control. Also, Downunder Horsemanship TV does a lot of good things about colts and finished horses and the groundwork involved.

    Good luck!
         
        01-08-2013, 03:35 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    **facepalm**

    Barrelhorsetrainer....gag bits ARE NOT the spawn of satan LOL. Delayed reaction.......

    Any bit is only as harsh as the hands attached to the reins.
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        01-08-2013, 05:08 PM
      #17
    Foal
    I try to stay away from a gag bit when training horses I keep them in the lightest bit possible for as long as I can. Gag bits can be very harmful in the wrong hands.
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        01-08-2013, 06:13 PM
      #18
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Barrelhorsetrainer    
    I try to stay away from a gag bit when training horses I keep them in the lightest bit possible for as long as I can. Gag bits can be very harmful in the wrong hands.
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    Actually it is more like the opposite of what you just said....gag bits give the horse time to respond before the bit takes hold. If you have a super light horse a bit with more gag is going to work better then a bit that has little to no gag. Because the less gag the quicker the bit engages and takes hold which is going to get a more instantanious reaction vs the gag.

    Gags truely less severe most of the time.
         
        01-08-2013, 06:38 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Ever gag bit I have ever been around has been really severe
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        01-08-2013, 06:42 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    What makes them severe??? What part of the bit??
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