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  • Do barrel horses need a mental break?
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    04-07-2011, 09:10 AM
  #1
Foal
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My daughter has this 16 yr barrel horse nows all the games. She can have him doing the barrel and if she wants to stop him in the middle of the run and bring him to a walk she can no trouble. You can take him to aarena with no show going on he goes in ther holding pen though the gate walks into the arena. He might run 2 events with no trouble and then the next he will back a mile and try to spin but once she gets him in he is all business and she still has comtrol on him (if she wanted him to stop he would) its just getting him in. Tried to lead him in he want move. When we was looking at this horse rode him in arena no trouble but that 1 show she gave her trouble, then everyone started talking about being crazy but what about the other horse over there showing out. What can be done to help her out with him. Other than that no problems at all
     
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    04-07-2011, 12:36 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Have you ever done anything in the arena that wasn't a speed/running event?

It sounds like an anxiety/excitement issue that's common to develop in barrel horses that know their job and know they need to run-run-run in the area.

So it might be beneficial to do some non-speed events with him, such as reining or maybe even a western pleasure class at a local small show. Just as long as it is something that is not a constant go-go-go and that he has to be in the arena for a longer period of time and relax.

It's not necessarily a bad thing for a horse to get gate sour, but it sure is troubling, as you have discovered. That's good that it is not a control issue, as you say your daughter is in complete control of her horse at all times. So if you are able to lead him in for her, go ahead! If you watched the NFR this past year, there are actually several horses that need to be led in (including the great Martha and Lindsay Sears). But it is that "control" issue that is important.

Another thing to keep in mind is that your daughter may be getting apprehensive about the gate sour issue and her horse is sensing that, and makes the problem occur. So make sure your daughter stays relaxed and focus and make sure her body language is relaxed when entering the arena.
     
    04-07-2011, 12:55 PM
  #3
Weanling
Also a lot of gate sour horses are dealing with pain issues and begin to associate the arena with being in pain. I would check the horse over for saddle fit, ulcers etc. and give it a mental break, go on a trail ride and do some dry work. I'm also a little confused by you saying she has control of him. Are you talking about in the arena or when he is balking at the gate? If you are talking about when he is balking at the gate- clearly she does not have full control if he can back, back, back away.

There is a large difference between a gate sour horse who is clearly telling the rider NO and an eager horse who is just ready to get in the arena and do their job, such as many of the NFR horses.
     
    04-07-2011, 05:19 PM
  #4
Foal
He has been off the events for about a yr she rides him down the rode everyday and do some long trotting and flexing. After he gets into the gate and can be in the middle of a run she can ask for a walk and he will an clam right down.. he did 2 events and the third he would back up and wouldn't go forward and couldnt lead him in, but after he went in he did his job. He don't run past a barrel ,cone,pole . I think that she was in a hurry for that event and like you said he could feel her and he got the way he did. When she rides him in the events she don't use an over and under.
We are starting going to arena that people go to every thursday and she is just going to walk in the gate and out and stand in the holding pen. And the next western pleasure show she is going to put him in a green horse walk trot class. I sure could use pointer, we are going tonight for the fiirst time hope it goes good. Will let you know
     
    04-07-2011, 05:48 PM
  #5
Foal
Well I can't fault you, so many people get their horses silly by just making them run the events over and over again. It's dangerous for the horse and rider, and anyone on the ground that may just be trying to help or just happening to be in the way.

Your training method sounds good, you could also do different things in the holding pen, maybe a little hack around the fenceline, the stop and stand like they're starting.. wait until he's calm, then maybe get off and pick up his feet, just do everyday things. I've trained my sporting horses on signals and voice commands, and they've learnt to remain absolutely calm until they get that signal, and to take off do a competitive run when I give that voice command.

We train at technique, not speed, and only allow one fast run per training session. That way it's a treat if their technique is right, and they learn that if they do it right they get to have fun.. not all this hitting and ripping on mouths you see in rodeos and gymkhanas sometimes. It really is a shame. I'd rather a safe, sensible horse I can trust than a fast one, and with work, ANY horse can barrel well - I used to have a 13.2hh welsh x WB pony that went up against pro circuit girls on barrels at a show... she tripped coming home and still placed 2nd by less than a second. I was dumbfounded.. but looking up at their absolutely shocked faces was the most satisfying feeling I've ever had!

I hope that your daughter's horse comes good, it sounds like he's had good foundation training and that he's just had some tiny little thing set him off, because horsey brains are a complete mystery and they do tend to get hysterical over the minor details! I'm sure he'll come up wonderfully after a bit of perserverance, and you'll look an even better horseperson for all the negative comments that were made about him!
     
    04-07-2011, 06:26 PM
  #6
Foal
I do hate it when people say what a crazy horse, but don't look at the other ones that doing almost the same. She did do a reining pattern on him and he did really good that was at the arena the other day. She don't do no events here at the house. We hadnt had the horse very long but went out several times and rode he did nothing and was told that you have to stay relax on him or he would back some. Since she also rides western pleasure I know that she should be able to be relax.. I just hope that if he don't straighen out she can make it easier for both of them. Getting his teeth floated next week. I will try to post a video on you tube tonight of this past weekend
     
    04-10-2011, 06:43 PM
  #7
Foal
My horse acts this way at times. The horse feels the excitement and anxiety just like the rider. Horse can feel rider tense, slight leg pressures, lifting reins, etc.

Get to the next show or 2 early enough to runs warm-ups. If/when the horse starts acting out, pull him/her back. I know warm-ups are not "training time," but keep it to a minimum and no one usually will have any problem with it.

Last time I did this, I paid for 2 warm ups. Horse tried to take off, but I swung his head around and we spun around twice at the arena entrance. After he stopped and stood for 2 seconds, I let hem go.

There are other "tricks" you can try, but the horse will most likely figure them out too. Such as: distract them with an apple or peppermint treat as you approach the arena entrance. If they have a barn or pasture buddy there at the show, have that horse lead them up to the gate. Both have worked for me.

Until my horse started acting this way, I used to think "crazy horses." Now I realize that some horses just get excited about running.
Good luck and be safe.
     

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