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  • Horse only goes through the gate when they drag
  • Tips to fix a gate sour horse

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    06-21-2012, 04:10 PM
  #1
Foal
Gate Sour! Help!

Hey guys! I need some help here, as am completely stumped. My barrel horse will not go in the gate! He starts to side pass and backup despite my kicking. If I pull out my over under whip he rears up. Once he is in the gate he is an angel, it's just getting him in there. My last few shows I have had to have someone walk him in, and it is really embarrassing. I need things I can do at home in the field, because there isn't much discipline I can do at a show because they are usually packed and I will end up hurting someone if I try to circle or anything. I have tried working with him at home. I set up a replica "gate" in front of the barrels, but I usually get the same reaction. Below are some of the strategies that I have been told to try and how they have worked out.
.Work him if he doesn't go in-He is a Morgan/QH and has incredible endurance. Every time he wouldn't go in and I ran him, I could just hear him saying "I could do this all day." Honestly, I started getting side pains before he got the message.
.Circle him- This went the same as the above strategy. I got dizzy and he still refused to move.
.Get out the whip-This just made him frustrated. Each horse has a different personality. With my mare, if I whip her, she straightens up and thinks, "Oop, time to learn, I better listen!" But with him, he says, "What is going on? Why is she using that!? I need to get away from that! I'll run to the barn! Or away from the gate!" He looses any sense of focus he had before and after I pull out the whip, there is no hope of him learning anything the rest of the day. No, I do not hurt my horses with the whip, but he was abused with a whip by somebody else, so that might be part of the problem.
.Standing patiently and inching forward- Turns out horses can stand for HOURS! I got bored, and it takes hours to take it slowly.

I have lunged him through and around the gate. Take away the barrels and he if fine! But if there are three barrels on the other side of that gate, good luck getting him through! Any help is awesome! Thanks!
     
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    06-21-2012, 04:27 PM
  #2
Foal
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Originally Posted by Ally56    
Hey guys! I need some help here, as am completely stumped. My barrel horse will not go in the gate! He starts to side pass and backup despite my kicking. If I pull out my over under whip he rears up. Once he is in the gate he is an angel, it's just getting him in there. My last few shows I have had to have someone walk him in, and it is really embarrassing. I need things I can do at home in the field, because there isn't much discipline I can do at a show because they are usually packed and I will end up hurting someone if I try to circle or anything. I have tried working with him at home. I set up a replica "gate" in front of the barrels, but I usually get the same reaction. Below are some of the strategies that I have been told to try and how they have worked out.
.Work him if he doesn't go in-He is a Morgan/QH and has incredible endurance. Every time he wouldn't go in and I ran him, I could just hear him saying "I could do this all day." Honestly, I started getting side pains before he got the message.
.Circle him- This went the same as the above strategy. I got dizzy and he still refused to move.
.Get out the whip-This just made him frustrated. Each horse has a different personality. With my mare, if I whip her, she straightens up and thinks, "Oop, time to learn, I better listen!" But with him, he says, "What is going on? Why is she using that!? I need to get away from that! I'll run to the barn! Or away from the gate!" He looses any sense of focus he had before and after I pull out the whip, there is no hope of him learning anything the rest of the day. No, I do not hurt my horses with the whip, but he was abused with a whip by somebody else, so that might be part of the problem.
.Standing patiently and inching forward- Turns out horses can stand for HOURS! I got bored, and it takes hours to take it slowly.

I have lunged him through and around the gate. Take away the barrels and he if fine! But if there are three barrels on the other side of that gate, good luck getting him through! Any help is awesome! Thanks!

I know many people who do barrel racing and have this problem. I know a few of them just have someone lead them through the gate and some others I know back their horse into the arena so maybe try that or just keep having someone lead you in...don't be embarrassed many people have to do it that way! Good luck!
     
    06-21-2012, 05:45 PM
  #3
Yearling
First before anything else.......has he always refused to go in? If not how long has it been going on. And also look at the whole situation not just "the stupid gate sour horse that won't go in the arena".

1. How often do you run him?
2. How often do you work the barrels (what exactly does this consist of)?
3. Have you had a vet check to make sure he isn't sore?
4. Is he stressed (may have a ulcer problem)?
5. What is your body doing?

Now for your methods.....all but one is forceful and making him work. What makes you think those will work? You need to make him COMFORTABLE and RELAXED...those are only going to make it worse. If you want him to go in to the arena you need to associate it with being a good thing not getting beat/jerked/kicked on...that isn't going to work.

So I would like you to answer those questions before going into further detailed paragraphs.....helps me to help you.

There is more too it then being "sour" there is always a reason behind it.
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    06-21-2012, 07:12 PM
  #4
Foal
Do you stand around waiting for your turn to run? If you do then that could be an issue. My baby recently started getting gate sour and we are working around it by walking around. Then when you go to go in it is more relaxing and it isn't a big deal.

I make sure to walk her up next to the gate and past it. Circle quietly till you can get this. The more work you do the less of an ordeal it will be.
     
    06-22-2012, 12:21 AM
  #5
Yearling
There's usually two main reasons for a gate sour horse; they've been burnt out on the pattern or they are in pain.

How old is he?
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    06-22-2012, 02:55 PM
  #6
Trained
If this is the horse you just started on barrels earlier this year, there's your problem right there...

You pushed too hard, too fast and now your dealing with the repercussions of those actions.

No amount if whipping, kicking, running is going to fix this. You need to stop running and go back to training.
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    06-22-2012, 03:18 PM
  #7
Green Broke
Yep, back to schooling for him. Sometimes our talented horses get pushed too fast and it unnerves them. Take a season off and cross train him to another discipline. He'll come back happier.
Also, I'd construct a pen, or use 4 round pen pieces and ground school him in and out of it for treats, to make it a pleasant experience.
     

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