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post #11 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 09:32 AM
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Here's my giant screw-up from two weekends ago. I didn't even post it because it was that bad.... I totally screwed Red up on his timing to turn the first pole, and then he tried to weave or something where he wasn't supposed to. This rodeo has a rule that if you break the pattern (miss a turn) you must exit the arena immediately. They have too many contestants to allow it. I felt like a moron and was SO mad at myself afterward. Especially since this was at about 7 PM at night and I'd been there since 7 AM. (Huge show, as usual!)


How's that for embarrassing?

Found out that Red is actually sore though, so I suppose that contributed to the bad first turn and his ducking out. 3rd big health issue with him this year ... grrrrr...

But I figure if a bad run doesn't happen to you at some point at some time, then you aren't trying hard enough and you don't want it bad enough.
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post #12 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks girl, you're right...We all have bad days!

While I have you here though, do you wanna critique that video for me? We tend to agree on most things and having a set of eyes would be good for me :) Haha.

I had a decent pole run a couple weeks ago I'm trying to upload too but for some reason youtube doesn't like it...grrr...lol

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #13 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 11:19 AM
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With Selena, now that she knows her job, I would HUSTLE her until the exact moment you want to sit and turn. Yes, that takes some trust on your part!!! (I'm working on that with Red too.) But she can do it, and she knows what to do, so give her the opportunity. With ol' Beau, that's what I would do with him. And time and time again I would think we were coming in too hot and he'd never make the turn, and he never once let me down. With Selena, I think she'll be able to do the same thing, and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how hard she'll dig around that end pole if you send her flying at it. In the beginning of your run, you guys took off to run, but then watch your body position; you kinda just stopped asking her to go. I want to see your upper body forward, hands forward on her neck, asking her to go! Until you need to sit and turn.

Kinda hard to tell on the video, but watch where your eyes are looking. Make sure you are looking at the point on the ground where you want to start your pole run, and do NOT look at the end pole itself.

You're weaving itself, I don't have much to add. (Great job on weaving without stirrups!!!) She got a little over-bendy with her nose here and there, but that outta even out if you ask her for some speed.

But I want to see you turn and burn on that run down!! Selena can do it.

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post #14 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! You're absolutely right about all of that. She's got it down, but I'm a little off the ball

I totally want one of those whither straps that says "Trust Her" on it...I keep riding cautiously, like I expect her to blow past things. And when I stop riding, she switches leads (You can see that in the run down, and in the video I'm uploading now she swapped leads twice but fixed herself). I have the theory, I think I'm riding like I want to hold her off...But in reality, she's not even diving in the first place o.o Lol! Sometimes I put my inside leg on, she responds, but then suddenly I'm blowing past a barrel...Because I forget to take that leg off

My internet is so bad, but I have a ton of videos I'm dying to post....Hopefully some of them will get up here soon, lol!

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #15 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 02:15 PM
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I think Red needs to come live in Alabama :) You can take the D4C mare, just leave Red. Lol!!
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post #16 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 03:37 PM Thread Starter
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Here's a video of us running poles from August, without me really pushing her too much.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #17 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 03:42 PM
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You're doing a great job! **hugs**
The problem with training a horse is that they anticipate and start wanting you to just be a passenger. Try doing some sessions that are just for schooling and obedience. Even IF you make the mistake that costs you time, you BOTH have to be responsible for your runs, and your horse shouldn't be the one calling the shots. =D
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post #18 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 04:34 PM
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Well Selena definitely weaves better to the left I see. That's okay; Red has got his "side" too.

Watch Selena on your run down. She is just WAITING for you to give her that cue to turn. That's why I say she is ready to hustle. Send her flying down to that first pole, and sit when your knee arrives at that last pole. She is ready and waiting to turn it, and I guarantee she's going to dig and turn at a moment's notice: Because she knows in her mind that the turn is coming. She actually seems to be listening very well to you on when that turn should occur. If she starts to anticipate, you can always do the same drills you would do on a horse that anticipates a barrel turn: Run past, counter arcs away, etc.

Make sure you use that outside leg to make that end pole tight. It kinda screwed up your weaving because she made her first turn a little wide.

Use more leg on the weaving. She's getting noodly in her head from the reins.

But not bad, not bad!!

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LOL, which D4C mare is that?

Red is D4C as well ..... it's just not very close in his pedigree.
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Yea, he's such a nice horse. I just wish the bugger would have a body that's going to hold up for a barrel racing career.

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You're doing a great job! **hugs**
The problem with training a horse is that they anticipate and start wanting you to just be a passenger. Try doing some sessions that are just for schooling and obedience. Even IF you make the mistake that costs you time, you BOTH have to be responsible for your runs, and your horse shouldn't be the one calling the shots. =D
Yes, excellent point.

I would actually run the pole bending pattern wrong and random during practice with my old horse Beau. I would anticipate SO badly. He knew what he needed to do, but he's do it at the wrong time and smash my knee against a pole; especially weaving. It actually worked great for him to only do the pattern correctly during a real competition run. It helped him actually to listen to me, instead of going where he thought he needed to.

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post #19 of 20 Old 09-16-2013, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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I'm having flashbacks to the trainwreck we had the first time we ran poles...LOL! Knocked a couple over, blew past things, etc xD It's just a mental block, and I need to do what you say...Hustle her more. She's got a whole new gear in there I haven't found yet, and so much turn it's crazy...If I'd just let her do it! Lol
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #20 of 20 Old 09-17-2013, 11:52 PM
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Don't sweat it. We all have bad days. I did notice one thing though... it looks like you're pulling on your horses face to get her to turn through the poles instead of guiding him to sidepass through them. You want to keep your hands quiet and literally sidepass through the poles. Your horses body should not bend, and they should not be looking anywhere but straight ahead.
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