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    10-26-2010, 08:08 AM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by SissyGoBob    
You guys are making barrel racers sound HORRIBLE. Yes, it the horse sport that has the dumbest riders, but some of us have brains and common sence and know how to ride.

And FYI there is no fixing my mare- she is 21 and that is just how she is, she is not disrespectful (none of my horses are) but, she does get excited. I can get onto her by hollaring at her but then she gets mad and has a tendency to not give me her all in the arena when I yell at her before going in the pen.

I have also had the exact opposite of her, I have a gelding that wil walk up the alley until you sit up and kick him and then he will blow 'em outta the water. Its just certain horses and how they were trained. Some horses can deal with the excitement better than others. And..... some young or nonexperienced horses don't know to get excited so some people will "rile them up" "tick them off" or whatever you want to call it, before they go in the pen. Im not saying I agree with that but I am saying its not all showing off and we arent all mean riders and not all barrel horses are "crazy"
I don't really understand why your being so defensive. Every dicipline has its faults and the riders who give it a bad name. You have to be able to see that. The people I barrel race with have no problem recognizing it.
I barrel race all year long, and when I'm at the state show, 90% of the horses walk into the gate with no issues.
     
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    10-26-2010, 09:45 AM
  #22
Trained
Of couse not all barrel racers are bad. The problem comes from people perpetuating the attitude that hot is ok and desired in a barrel horse. Look at the OP's friend. If she was to buy a barrel horse she'd probably look for a nutty horse or make one.

It isn't that difficult to make a horse hot, in fact most of my horse friends (including myself) have done it. We aren't proud of it though, it was poor training done by teenagers who didn't really understand what they were doing. More than one of my friends has an old horse that only like 3 people can ride....

I will say again that not all barrel racers are like that, but I will also say a good 80% (or more) of the BRs I see in my area ARE. Their horses are rearing spinning crazy messes ridden in tie downs, twisted wire gags, over-unders, and spurs.
     
    10-26-2010, 11:29 AM
  #23
Started
Quote:
Originally Posted by SissyGoBob    
You guys are making barrel racers sound HORRIBLE. Yes, it the horse sport that has the dumbest riders, but some of us have brains and common sence and know how to ride.

And FYI there is no fixing my mare- she is 21 and that is just how she is, she is not disrespectful (none of my horses are) but, she does get excited. I can get onto her by hollaring at her but then she gets mad and has a tendency to not give me her all in the arena when I yell at her before going in the pen.

I have also had the exact opposite of her, I have a gelding that wil walk up the alley until you sit up and kick him and then he will blow 'em outta the water. Its just certain horses and how they were trained. Some horses can deal with the excitement better than others. And..... some young or nonexperienced horses don't know to get excited so some people will "rile them up" "tick them off" or whatever you want to call it, before they go in the pen. Im not saying I agree with that but I am saying its not all showing off and we arent all mean riders and not all barrel horses are "crazy"
There are a lot of barrel racers that are horrible. Then again, a lot of them aren't. And FYI, just because your mare is 21 doesn't mean you can't teach her to walk into the chute quietly. You don't need to get onto her by yelling at her before you go into the chute. Just walking in and out several times can help to calm her down. Just because she gets excited before a run doesn't mean she's disrespectful, also.
     
    10-26-2010, 11:34 AM
  #24
Foal
No these riders weren't getting their horses riled up, they really had quite difficulty controlling them.

I would like to try barrel racing but if I have to ride horses like that, there's no way. I can understand a little prancing but nothing like I saw would be acceptable IMO.

I was just under the impression and I am pretty sure others think the same way that these were the kind of horses that you'd want. Being a novice I kind of believed my friend, good to know that horses don't have to be that way.
     
    10-26-2010, 11:52 AM
  #25
Started
My daughters one eyed barrel horse Left Eye is quite the girl. She is easy to take in to the arena, will calmly lope, change leads, do circles, stop, start and behave herself, even with barrels in the arena. However she does get super excited when others around her standing outside the arena start getting silly and running. I sometimes wonder if its because she doesn't see out her right side and can only hear the excitement around her and feel the excitement from others. At that time, my daughter needs to back her towards the gate, then she will turn around and run, then finish her pattern, stop and walk out.
Alot has to do with her training before she was purchased by my daughter and since she is very ridable and workable like this, no sense trying to change it now. She is 20 and pretty settled in her ways, why mess with it since it works
     
    10-26-2010, 06:59 PM
  #26
Showing
JustPaint, don't let some bad apples turn you off to an entire sport. I don't particularly like watching barrels but would someday like to give it a try just for grins and giggles. Just because the majority of other girls ride horses that are uncontrollable doesn't mean that you would have to. Get you a nice, broke, all-around horse that is calm all the time and later on, find someone to either train them for you or help you train them on barrels. If it was my horse, I would be adamant about not using any bit harsher than a simple snaffle and spurs only to help in turning, never for speed. If you do your homework about proper horsemanship and stick to the ideas behind that instead of getting sucked into the world where it's okay to use sharp spurs and twisted bits, then you'll be just fine and you'll have one of the better horses there.
     
    10-26-2010, 07:07 PM
  #27
Yearling
Can anyone please post some youtube links of what they consider good examples of barrel racing?

I searchd on youtube but most things I find are accidents or just some conglomerate of whips, spurs, shrieking, bad music taste and unbalanced riders.

Please, if you have links for competitive championships and such or stuff that you would consider nice to see, post them, I would be happy to change my mind about this sport.
     
    10-26-2010, 07:15 PM
  #28
Foal
I'm personally not a BR but I did try it this year. My coach said horses that do that were started too early on barrels or started too fast. I know alot of riders will hold their horse back and then take the overunder to them to hyp them up and spur the crap out of them.

In my "opinion" a horse that enjoys it wouldn't be trembling and rearing and bucking and trying to avoid the situation all together... Those all seem to be reactions to fear/pain ?? My horse is such a calm horse I didn't want to ruin him so I decided BR wasn't my thing. (and I'm not saying all of them get ruined there are alot of really nice BR horses!)
     
    10-26-2010, 07:33 PM
  #29
Showing
Ina, this is a nice example of a good run. I know it's done bareback but she rides it very well, the horse is calm on the way in, she doesn't yank on his face at all that I can see and it doesn't appear that she is even wearing spurs.

     
    10-26-2010, 07:41 PM
  #30
Started
Inaclick. Here is the nfr barrel racers, now these horses can't walk into the arena and can't walk out because of were the timer is, but you can still see how some enter the allyway better than others. And these are some of the best of the best barrel racers.
     

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