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How Do I Slow Down My Barrel Horse?

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  • Can i use my barrel horse as a trail horse
  • Should i put a tie down on my horse while barrel racing

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    02-12-2012, 11:55 AM
  #11
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Originally Posted by go go girl    
thank you all for your comments, whenever I try to put a tiedown on him he rears up to get away from it and I had the saddle fitter out and he said as long as I have a thick pad the saddle would be ok
With the tie-down, if he is rearing up when he has it on I would put it on him and if you have access to a round pen, lunge him in there until he realizes he can't get away from it..He's not going to like it and he might keep rearing and bucking but it's something he's just going to have to get accustomed to. At first y gelding didn't like it but after an hour in the round pen and wearing himself out he finally realized it was there and he was just going to have to get over it..A tie-down isn't something you can just put on your horse and go.

As 1RedHorse said, a thicker saddle pad isn't going to make the saddle fit, it's going to cause it to pinch and be very uncomfortable for your horse.

I think the tom thumb, ill fitting saddle, and not using a tie-down when running are your problems...Get a vet and/or chiro out to evaluate your horse, switch to another bit (the Jr Cowhorse is a great bit to switch to), and let him gradually get used to the tie-down..
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    02-12-2012, 12:06 PM
  #12
Weanling
To bring his head down you need to soften his poll, to keep him from speeding up on then trail, make him work everytime he does. I worked with an x Endurance horse that was broke to hell but always jogged down the triail it took months to reverse it. It shouldnt take you that long if you are consistant. When he started to get push or speed up turn him do several circles and turn him the other direction. Only tuen him back when he relaxes. I wouldnt practice this on a real trail ride though. Get your friends to help you were they know the situation ad what your going to be doing this way you don't spook any horses or irritate your trail buddies.
I would definitaly change your bit and saddle and adviod the tie down even if you do get him to with stand it.
     
    02-12-2012, 12:10 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by farley    
I would definitaly change your bit and saddle and adviod the tie down even if you do get him to with stand it.
I'm curious to why you think she should avoid the tie-down..If she is barrel racing it is a very good tool to use for horses that have problems with their heads..Some horses, no matter how much work you do softening their poll and mouth, when running will throw their head back up...I know from first hand experience and meeting my horse's head with my face. For most barrel horses who have learned that they can just carry their head high and have been able to do it for longer periods of time won't soften their poll and give easily...
     
    02-12-2012, 12:12 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by DrumRunner    
I'm curious to why you think she should avoid the tie-down..If she is barrel racing it is a very good tool to use for horses that have problems with the heads..Some horses, not matter how much work you do softening their poll and mouth, when running will throw their head back up...I know from first hand experience and meeting my horse's head with my face. For most barrel horses who have learned that they can just carry their head high and have been able to do it for longer periods of time won't soften their poll and give easily...
Im with drumrunner I have done tons of softening stuff with my boy and at home I can ride him without a tie down just fine and have no problems but at a barrel race he throws his head like an SOB so I use a tie down only then.
     
    02-12-2012, 12:47 PM
  #15
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He's probably trying to run from the pain that ridiculous bit causes him.
     
    02-12-2012, 12:48 PM
  #16
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Originally Posted by go go girl    
i had the saddle fitter out and he said as long as I have a thick pad the saddle would be ok
Find a different fitter. The one you have doesn't know what he's talking about.
     
    02-12-2012, 12:49 PM
  #17
Weanling
For barrels I agree but I was under the impressions these problems are on the trail. BarrelracingArabian you have worked with your horse to the piont where you still need certain tools during certain activities but you don't have to rely on them always. But some people will not put in the work as you have and will use their tools always. Specialy if her horse doenst respond well to the tie down, even if she were to get him comfortable with it, if he spooked or freaked out on the trail he could flip over and really hurt her or others riding with her.
If she gets hims comfortable with it during barrels, he is in such work mode the probability of injury to horse and rider is lower.
     
    02-12-2012, 01:02 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Oh I wouldn't suggest it for trails, that is not a place for a tie down. I would first focus on switching his bit and finding a better saddle/saddle fitter and see if this helps your problem any. A tie down can help during your events but personally I would try and work with him at home without it as much as with it just so you don't always rely on that.
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    02-12-2012, 01:07 PM
  #19
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Originally Posted by farley    
For barrels I agree but I was under the impressions these problems are on the trail. BarrelracingArabian you have worked with your horse to the piont where you still need certain tools during certain activities but you don't have to rely on them always. But some people will not put in the work as you have and will use their tools always. Specialy if her horse doenst respond well to the tie down, even if she were to get him comfortable with it, if he spooked or freaked out on the trail he could flip over and really hurt her or others riding with her.
If she gets hims comfortable with it during barrels, he is in such work mode the probability of injury to horse and rider is lower.
If you think your horse is going to flip over on you if you're wearing a tie down, the tie-down doesn't fit. It's too tight and not fitted properly by someone who knows what they are doing.....A tie-down isn't tight on the horse the whole time they are wearing it. There is enough slack for the horse to get away from the pressure of the tie-down, but if they raise their head too high the tie-down puts pressure on the bridge of their nose...A tie-down can be very beneficial. While one of my horses wear a tie-down even on trails, my other two don't have to wear a tie-down except showing..When I said that she should wear a tie-down it is to reinforce that pressure and to teach the horse to hold their head down, if the horse has it's head held high she will have no control of the horse and even with a different bit it won't change anything if you have no contact with the bit...

She may trail ride her horse but she also uses him for running events..While she may be able to soften him while at a slower pace, that doesn't mean that it's going to work when she's running barrels on him...He's had this behavior so long that it's going to be hard enough to break the habit on trails but I doubt it will be broken when running barrels..


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Originally Posted by farley    
If she gets hims comfortable with it during barrels, he is in such work mode the probability of injury to horse and rider is lower.
This is also very wrong..If there is anyway that a tie-down is going to make your horse flip over (highly doubtful it if it fits properly) it's going to be at a show..A horse is more hyped up at a show than on trails. They know that it's time for work and to do business....There is always a risk of a rider or horse getting hurt. It doesn't even have to be in the saddle. You take that risk every time you're around your horse. No matter how bomb proof you think your horse is, there is always the risk of some freak accident happening...
     
    02-12-2012, 01:11 PM
  #20
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Originally Posted by DrumRunner    
She may trail ride her horse but she also uses him for running events..While she may be able to soften him while at a slower pace, that doesn't mean that it's going to work when she's running barrels on him...He's had this behavior so long that it's going to be hard enough to break the habit on trails but I doubt it will be broken when running barrels..
This I agree with 100% my boy has had this habit forever and it has taken a ton of consistency and finding what works for him to get him to come back down and behave. Its going to take a lot on her part to get him to realise that he doesn't need to have his head up in the sky and that nothings going to hurt him once she gets everything settled because as of now it looks/ sounds to me he only really knows pain.
     

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