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post #21 of 121 Old 02-12-2012, 01:17 PM
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This I agree with 100% my boy has had this habit forever and it has taken a ton of consistency and finding what works for him to get him to come back down and behave. Its going to take a lot on her part to get him to realise that he doesn't need to have his head up in the sky and that nothings going to hurt him once she gets everything settled because as of now it looks/ sounds to me he only really knows pain.
Exactly my point.

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post #22 of 121 Old 02-12-2012, 01:20 PM
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Exactly my point.
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Well, I have seen a horse flip with a well fitted one, he was scared and kept fighting it and although it wasnt straight up and straight back it was more to the side but both him and rider were in the dirt. And I agree if she needs it while eventing that is one thing but that tool does not teach a horse to hold there heads lower it just refrains them from holding them up. they never actually learn from it.
But I do agree with you guys that some horses need it while eventing.

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Yep.

I think a lot of it has to do with experience with horses who have to or don't have to have a tie-down, and knowing the difference. If someone doesn't know how to use or fit a tie-down it could and probably will cause a problem, but it's a great tool in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing.

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Well, I have seen a horse flip with a well fitted one, he was scared and kept fighting it and although it wasnt straight up and straight back it was more to the side but both him and rider were in the dirt. And I agree if she needs it while eventing that is one thing but that tool does not teach a horse to hold there heads lower it just refrains them from holding them up. they never actually learn from it.
But I do agree with you guys that some horses need it while eventing.
I have to disagree with this..and I respect your opinion, but until you've ridden with a tie-down and have the experience with different horses who wear a tie-down, you can't know all of the facts about one. And just because the horse flipped over you don't know that the tie-down is the exact reason the horse flipped over...You may know how it "works" and read about it or seen other people using it, but that doesn't mean your an expert on it..I've ridden my whole life and have been barrel racing competitively for 7 or 8 years..It's something that comes with firsthand experience....Like a situation with an eventer or someone riding English, I can tell you about a lot of their equipment, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be an expert on it because I've never seriously used it.

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farley- generally there are other reasons for a horse flipping over and if it was fitted properly he wouldn't have had a reason to really fight it. Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen but generally the tie down is not what causes a horse to flip over if they are properly adjusted and introduced to it, generally.
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post #27 of 121 Old 02-12-2012, 01:37 PM
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yes to someone who knows how to properly use one and no affence to GO GO RIDER but from what Ive read I wouldnt advice you to use one unless you have a good coach that knows their barrel horses. But I personaly wouldnt give you one, and I wouldnt go buy one til you know what to do with it. I was lucky that my rodeo horse didnt have these issues but Ive worked with plenty that do. All can trail ride beautifuly, and only the younger ones event with out tie downs. I agree that in some cases its the only way, but in saying that you still need to put in that work and not just rely on your tools.

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I said in my posts that the OP does need to get someone out who knows what they are doing..I never said just to throw one on her horse herself and take off with it.. I also said he needs to gradually get used to it..It's not just a quick fix..

As you can see in my picture, the tie-down isn't tight at all..It's there as a reminder..not something to force my horse to hold his head down the entire time..


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And Ive been around horse my whole life Ive taken lessons from some of the best for several years and still go from time to time, and I competed for several years in cutting and barrels. I have plenty of experiance. I was only saying it was a contributing fatcor and that Ive seen it happen. I am also just saying I have seen horses quit this habit with work, and some that dont. I also know that it doesnt teach anything. Just giving my two cents to someone who is using a bad bit, an ill fitted saddle and maybe doesnt know much about a tie down, on an issue I asumed to be trail riding.
DrumRunner Everything you said is correct I am not saying otherwise and have been agreeing with you, I am not trying to start anything, only giving go go girl a little advice same as you.

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And Ive been around horse my whole life Ive taken lessons from some of the best for several years and still go from time to time, and I competed for several years in cutting and barrels. I have plenty of experiance. I was only saying it was a contributing fatcor and that Ive seen it happen. I am also just saying I have seen horses quit this habit with work, and some that dont. I also know that it doesnt teach anything. Just giving my two cents to someone who is using a bad bit, an ill fitted saddle and maybe doesnt know much about a tie down, on an issue I asumed to be trail riding.
DrumRunner Everything you said is correct I am not saying otherwise and have been agreeing with you, I am not trying to start anything, only giving go go girl a little advice same as you.
It seemed in in your first posts that you were telling her not to use a tie-down..I honestly think in her situation the best advice to give her would be to ..
1. Find a trainer, maybe take a few lessons, and see what the trainer thinks on how to go about fixing her problem.

2. Lose the Tom Thumb..

3. Have a better saddle fitter come out and see if an ill fitting saddle is a problem also..which I'm thinking it is..Also a good idea is to have a chiro and/or vet look at her horse..His teeth could also be an issue, and/or pain..there are a lot of factors that haven't even been discussed in the thread.

4. Work with her horse on trails and around the house with working to soften his mouth and poll..BUT if he continues to do this, regardless, I would ask the trainer about putting a tie-down on the horse..Which can be a huge help.

5. Because her horse has had this problem for so long I seriously doubt that it is going to change much when running. She is completely able to fix it at a slower pace and even though it will take a lot of work, consistency, and patience it will pay off and he'll relax at home.
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