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post #11 of 127 Old 11-24-2011, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah and I think that i what the owner was afraid of. She's a big time barrel racer and very set in her ways of doing this since....well, forever.

Next time I ride her I will get a video of a pattern lope-through in the snaffle and then in the six bit so you can see what she is doing. Although its much more of a feel thing for me, I think she feels stressed out in harsher bits because she is a very sensitive girl. I can feel her getting tense and bracing against me in the six bit but in the snaffle she is relaxed, and even though the control factor is obviously a problem I would much rather teach her to be better in the snaffle than use the gadget to get her to behave.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #12 of 127 Old 11-24-2011, 04:53 PM
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Put a simplicity bit on her. 6s are a piece of junk.

Simplicity bits work well on horses that do well in a snaffle but need more leverage etc etc....they're not harsh
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Or if she tenses up in harsh bits, but is otherwise soft and broke, consider bitless of some sort.
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1RedHorse, we've tried the simplicity. She doesn't like it. My problem with her has been finding a bit that actually works, because she absolutely hates almost all of them that has ever been put in her mouth. I'm almost certain we have had everything short of a bicycle chain in her mouth (And no I don't plan on it, lol)

So that's why I want her in the snaffle, because this is the only bit she hasn't posed ANY resistance to.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Her teeth have been floated, correct?
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Have her checked for a shallow pallet. If she does....small mouthpieces that are a 3 piece.
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1RedHorse, we've tried the simplicity. She doesn't like it. My problem with her has been finding a bit that actually works, because she absolutely hates almost all of them that has ever been put in her mouth. I'm almost certain we have had everything short of a bicycle chain in her mouth (And no I don't plan on it, lol)

So that's why I want her in the snaffle, because this is the only bit she hasn't posed ANY resistance to.
That almost sounds like my guy when I got him, he HATED all bits and even still does a little bit of a head toss. I went back to basics with him and worked on his bitting, using a nice comfy doubled jointed bit (Sprenger RS). It took quite a few months of patience patience patience but in the end it was worth it. He now accepts the bit, bit contact and is now very light with it.

Your horse may not go in a snaffle now, but I'm sure that with a few months of work she may go much better. And I agree with checking for mouth issues first.

One thing to remember that I tell people who are planning on switching bits around to fix something is this - Different bits communicate with the horse in different ways. Going from a curb to a snaffle, or a snaffle to a curb is like suddenly speaking to your horse in a completely different language. If someone suddenly started speaking to you in Cambodian, or French you probably wouldn't understand the first day, or even the first week. You might start picking it up eventually after time and patience. So, when you switch bits, you can't depend on the reaction of the first ride to decide whether or not that bit works for the horse.
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Yeah Bubba. We've had dentists on her.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Have you tried a Myler/Billy Allen type snaffle on her...one with the barrel that would prevent the nutcracker action?

If she is relaxed in the snaffle, then that's what I would go with. The responsiveness and control will come with time and training.

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Maybe if she doesn't like ANY bit the problem is at the other end of the reins!

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