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        09-03-2013, 03:07 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Your video does not play for me.
         
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        09-05-2013, 01:45 PM
      #22
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beau159    
    Your video does not play for me.
    it should be I checked and its playing for me, what are you using??
         
        09-05-2013, 02:30 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Heres another from last night! Wasnt running him hard.
         
        09-05-2013, 02:41 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    That video says it is private. I can't see it. Change the settings to public.
         
        09-05-2013, 02:45 PM
      #25
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beau159    
    That video says it is private. I can't see it. Change the settings to public.
    Ok I did sorry.
         
        09-05-2013, 03:12 PM
      #26
    Foal
    What do you thing about the second one anything you can see that I need to improve on??
         
        09-05-2013, 05:45 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Well it's better than you first video, but I honestly would not be loping the pattern with him yet. You are allowing him to do some very bad habits that are only going to hurt you in the long run, because your ingraining those bad habits deeper. I would strongly recommend you to only trot at this point. No, it's not fun to go slow, but if you want a barrel horse that runs the pattern correctly, you've got to.

    Going to the first barrel, at least you got him to pick up the correct lead. That's good. I am concerned though about how high his head is in the air because he seems to be evading the bit.

    I don't know if you noticed, but right before the barrel turn you kinda jerked back on him a little with the reins. It's good you sat deep in your saddle, but make sure it's your body doing the rating and not your reins.

    You still let him go straight into the turn without any bend in his body. Not good. He doesn't have any bend and he doesn't engage his hindquarters fully. Lift with your inside rein (twisting your wrist up and toward your opposite shoulder) and ask him to curl around your inside leg. This is something that you work on away from the barrel pattern, doing lots and lots of circle work. You want it so that when you lift your inside rein and give him a tiny bit of inside leg pressure (slightly forward) that he just wraps his body around the barrel.

    FINISH YOUR TURNS. You let him drift on almost every single one. This is a horrible habit to create, and to fix. When you are practicing (at the trot ... right?) make sure to circle each barrel at least twice before moving on, to make him understand he's got to finish that barrel before going onto the next one.

    Same exact issues on the second barrel. No bend going into the turn, and he comes out wide.

    Third barrel was worse, because he started the turn too soon, cut off the backside of the turn, and thus had to leave the barrel extremely wide to avoid tipping it over. This is where it is vitally important to keep your inside leg on him, keep him bent, and don't allow him to start the turn until your knee is AT the barrel or slightly past it.

    No, it's not the most horrible barrel run I've ever seen. Not by a long shot. But allowing him to drift out of the turns now is going to be a big problem later if you don't fix it now.

    And it concerns me at the end of your run (like it did in the beginning of the run) how he's throwing his nose into the air, evading bit pressure, and ignoring the bit. I don't remember --> Did you say you have had his teeth checked? If he's got a tooth pain issue, it could be causing a bit issue.

    If he doesn't have any mouth pain, then you've got to get him softer in the bit. And that's where a trainer would help you immensely because timing is so critical in getting a horse softer in the bit.
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        09-06-2013, 01:57 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Humm okay I'll keep working on him. The only reason I took him to that show is bc I already entered 2 months ago and paid so I really had no choice I did place 3rd in the 2d out of 70 people and I wasn't really pushing him so that was a moment of happiness for me but I do understand I'm not finished with his training and still need to do much more with him I'm trying to get a trainer also and go to clinics this year
         
        11-30-2013, 10:29 PM
      #29
    Foal
    A current barrel run hows he doing?
         
        12-01-2013, 10:51 AM
      #30
    Yearling
    He's still not finishing his turns or rating much. Work more on his rating, and finishing his turns. When walking and trotting you want to over exaggerate your turns, coming off once your leg is past the barrel pick up your outside rein and use your leg to move him over heading straight towards the next barrel. I've already told you how to teach him better rate. As for your riding keep your hands low, they shouldn't go above your saddle horn. You want to turn the barrel one handed, inside hand on the rein outside hand on the horn. Move your inside hand up towards his ears just enough to give him his head. You only want slight pressure on your inside rein without having your outside hand there to interfere. Use your outside hand on your horn to keep your body steady when he takes off. Remember to switch your hands between barrels, ride up into your pocket two handed before dropping the outside rein to turn.

    Here's a video of a colt I sold this year at his first show. Notice I say "whoa" at each barrel to remind him to rate to turn. He finished each barrel almost to well but were only loping, his third could have been better but he headed back straight at the gate. I'm also only using one hand around each barrel. Mainly I just wanted to show you what I mean by finish his turns.

    Kid Exhibition Barrels - YouTube

    You have improved, but working on these things are going to increase your times. I don't think he needs to be taken off barrels, but going back and tuning him up in slow work is needed for a few weeks.
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