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post #11 of 19 Old 07-31-2013, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
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^^Point taken, but I guess what I mean by that is I work the barrel pattern very little with him. So it's going to take some time to get it right, and for me to figure it out. I mean, just even the month of July we have "worked" the barrels 3 times. And I hauled him to two local shows for exposure and other events besides barrels. Grand total of 5 times in 31 days. (Granted he had a week+ off there, but still.) I'm not going to figure his right turn out in only 3 practices, but I will eventually.

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I completely understand.

I get to work my mare Rumor on patterns at shows, once or twice a month. I don't have the correct footing at home and she is already predisposed to arthritis in her hock. So what little I can do, is beyond limited. But when she does see a pattern, perfection, perfection, perfection. One day, in like 3 years, maybe we will lope a complete pattern flawlessly. :-D
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What kind of shoes do you have on him?

His style is much like Selena's... And both of them are naturally front-endy, I'm wondering if a different shoeing situation would help him as much as it helped her.

Butttt that's not what I was going to say originally, lol.

He's not really making any effort here. He's just cruising. That's fine for now, but that's just something to keep in mind that you might start adding a little pressure into those turns to make him snap. If he doesn't snap and fire out of it, give him a good kick. Just one kick, nothing crazy, to say "Yo, buddy, seriously. Let's go." Then relax again. I do think he is dropping a little but that's from lack of effort. It's not so much he's throwing himself onto the barrel, so much as he's saying "Ehh...God forbid I burn another calorie lifting my front end..."

On that first barrel as soon as he blew wide I would kick hard with the outside leg and make him turn/spin a full 360 if not more, as long as the shoulder moves. He's not lifting and he's bowing up on you, which is why he is coming off wide. Can he do rollbacks along the fence and spins?

Another thing is I would not wait so long to get his lead changed...In practice, if he doesn't have it by halfway flying, then go to the trot and change it. In competition you may not get it until a stride or so before, but in practice you wanna get it down pat halfway.

I mean, he's come a long way and he's going well. Those are just the little tweaks I would make to him.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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He's actually got 2 degree wedge shoes on his front feet. This is the first time I've ever had a horse shoed so I can't tell you about them anymore than that, haha. But my farrier knows I barrel race so he put something on that would be safe to do that with.

Yes, he is just cruising. I would agree to that. I guess I've tried really really hard to keep him calm and relaxed through the pattern. I could pack a little crop to wake him up on the backside. I've only used a crop on him once and it was like it was on fire, haha. I've also got spurs that he responds to well that I ride with sometimes, I could give him a little tap with those to bring his shoulder around.

Yes, he can do rollbacks, but I've really got to keep him back on his hindquarters, but he can do it.

Spins ..... more like a pivot, LOL. The trainer was working with him on that, and she told me spins are not easy for him because he is front end heavy. But I do work on it here and there, and sometimes have to get after him with a big kick to say "Hey, move it!".

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How long have you been trotting and loping the pattern?
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I "started" him on the pattern last year toward the end of July. I maybe tried to lope the pattern on 3 occasions last fall around September/October. Winter he had off, and then I didn't ride him until about April when he was healing from his injury. Took him to a barrel clinic at the end of April, then to a reining trainer for 30 days (of course, no barrels there). Got him back at the end of May. So I guess I would honestly consider his actually "loping" the pattern to be in June and July of this year. And as I mentioned above, it was only a handful of times this whole month.

Sorry for the long answer, but it would not be accurate to say he's been loping the pattern since last fall.

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Hmmm. One thing I just noticed in my own slo-mo video. On the first barrel, my shoulders are NOT facing the right way. ***facepalm*** That is probably not helping!

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He looks a little better IMO.

One thing I've noticed is....its almost as if you're so focused on making him flex or bendy that he's noodling his barrels thus disengaging his hip and swinging out.
IMO he needs to be challenged...he seems a little bored.

I would really work on the noodling and get him to engage his hind more on all 3 barrels

Why do you stop and back him up?
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Thanks for the critique 1Red.

Since that video, I have asked him to "wake up" a little bit. Not asking him for full blast speed or anything, but to ask him to go through the pattern a tad bit faster with more energy.

In general, he is very front end heavy. Anything I do with him (barrels or not) I've always got to be careful to keep him on his hind end, or else he'll just swing it around.

What do you make of his turning style on his 2nd and 3rd? He really seems like he "drops" his front end in the turns. But that honestly seems to be how he is. I feel like he was using his hind end "okay" in that video. I feel like that is going better now that I've asked him to step it up a bit.

I guess I stopped and backed him up because I always thought he was a run-run-run type of guy. Now that I'm getting myself together and cueing him correctly, I know realize that he's actually VERY anticipatey and just LOOKING for that barrel to turn. (love how he seems to hunt them!) I haven't stopped him before a barrel in slow work since that video. But I do ask him to bend before the barrel, and that seems to be working.

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