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post #1 of 12 Old 11-05-2013, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation NO Time Barrel run

I have a 13 year old quarter horse mare, she has ran barrels but has been in the field for two years, I have been working her for two months and we have gotten good times i took her to a fair show and something spooked her and she did not want o go back in the ring they made me take her out as she was becoming frantic ever since she will go around her barrels very good but on the back side of the barrel she will turn her head sideways and bite her bit and pull against me and side step pass the time back to the gate. I ride her in a jr. cowhorse bit but idk if that could be too rough on her she doesnttake much pressure in her mouth to turn she knows when i aks her to turn, at home she will do th pattern perfect but when she gets in a ring she is terrified, I had a equine dentist to check her teeth and float them just incase she was hurting. Anyone have any tips or ideas on how i can get her to feel safe in a ring again?

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post #2 of 12 Old 11-05-2013, 11:41 PM
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I'm not a barrel racer but I would try riding her in a few W-T-C classes so she gets used to the ring without always having to run.
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post #3 of 12 Old 11-05-2013, 11:48 PM
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Do other activities in the ring like natisha said.


Also I would recommend having a chiro or equissage therapist maybe look at her. Sometimes things can be out of whack in them and you don't even notice.

My mare did the same thing once. She would be fine for the first then as soon as she hit the pocket of the second she would turn her head out, grab the bit, and go straight on the rail back to the gate. (She ran the timer over once oooops lol)

Thought she was getting arena sour, but I had a chiro look at her and turns out her hips were out, she had a displaced? Rib and her poll was unaligned. No outward signs of pain but gave her 2 months off with 4 equissage sessions and chiro and she was golden.

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post #4 of 12 Old 11-06-2013, 07:39 AM
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The fastest, most consistent barrel horses never even look at barrels once they know the pattern. Different aspect of training are worked on with plenty of trail riding. Years ago I bo't a mare that wouldn't even walk up to a barrel. A little investigating revealed that if she didn't run a good pattern, the owner wailed on her. It took about two years to get her to circle a barrel willingly at walk, trot then we'd do something else. We never ran the barrels at home, just at a few shows and her times were good.
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I have a 13 year old quarter horse mare, she has ran barrels but has been in the field for two years, I have been working her for two months and we have gotten good times
Was she a finished barrel horse when she was turned out 2 years ago?

How often do you work the barrels with her?

What have you been doing in those 2 months to condition her? How many times per week do you ride and what do you do?

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i took her to a fair show and something spooked her and she did not want o go back in the ring they made me take her out as she was becoming frantic
That is entirely up to the management at the show. If they think a horse is getting unruley and unsafe, they have every right to ask the contestant to leave the arena. It's for safety.

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ever since she will go around her barrels very good but on the back side of the barrel she will turn her head sideways and bite her bit and pull against me and side step pass the time back to the gate. I ride her in a jr. cowhorse bit but idk if that could be too rough on her she doesnttake much pressure in her mouth to turn she knows when i aks her to turn,
Do you have a video of you running barrels on her? Or working the barrels?

Does she do this in both directions or just in one direction?

This would sound to me like a tooth issue, but you said you had her seen by an equine dentist.

Has she been checked by a chiropractor?

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at home she will do th pattern perfect but when she gets in a ring she is terrified, I had a equine dentist to check her teeth and float them just incase she was hurting.
I'd have her checked by a chiro and see what that comes up with. If the chiro suspects anything, definately have a vet check too.

If pain turns out to not be the issue, then you've got some serious re-training to do with this mare. She doesn't respect the bit and doesn't respect you.

What does the mouthpiece look like on your Jr. Cowhorse?

Your best bet is to go back to a snaffle at home and re-train her to be softer to the bit and your leg/seat aids. Then go do some shows, either doing exhibitions only on the barrels, or doing something completely different than barrels (cow, reining, WP, etc). Right now, the arena is a scary and frightening place.

Either way, she's not listening to you and being downright disrespectful. You've got to slow down your pattern and do things other than barrels, to get her to listen to you again and do as you ask.

If you have a video, that really would be best to see what's going on.

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post #6 of 12 Old 11-06-2013, 01:48 PM Thread Starter
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She is a finihsed barrel horse and had competed for four years when i got hershe wasnt fast enough for the man i bought her from. She has done walk trot classes and she will do them fine but as soo as barrels are in the ring she gets tense and nervous. I have not had a equine doctor but the vet siad she is sound and no problems. I ride her about 4 times a week and we never do barrles other than at a show i have her do alot of roll backs and figure 8's to keep her in shape along with flexing and thats how i got her back in shape and ready for shows i took her on the pattern two days a week for a month to get her back into the swing of things. She is very soft in the mouth i have changed her bit three times due to her being too soft and the bit was too harsh for her, She will sit and turn circles off your inside leg and will bend and flex perfect. She will work both ways but she perfers the left first

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This is the bit i use on her
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I would ask about getting some exhibitions or time onlys done on her and just go nice and slow and relaxed. Maybe even walk up to the barrel, stop, get off, and loosen your cinch. On top of what everyone else has said.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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If she's a light mouthed horse, why would you ever need more than a snaffle...???
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If she's a light mouthed horse, why would you ever need more than a snaffle...???
Go look at her other thread "barrel horse gone crazy".

She has different stories in both threads.
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