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        04-07-2014, 11:06 AM
      #1
    Green Broke
    Our runs from yesterday. Critique if you wish.

    First barrel race of the season for us yesterday.

    Red has had very limited time on the pattern this year due to it still being greasy and slick outside (hopefully it dries up this week) and due to getting his health issues under control. In March, he got chiro'ed, teeth done, shoes put on, and right stifle injected. Now it is my responsibility to make sure that I get him to use his body correctly, which after our runs yesterday, I got a lot of work to do in that department.

    I'm not sure what's going on with his head shaking. I normally run him in a Carol Goosetree simplicity bit. During our exhibition practice yesterday, he was shaking his head like CRAZY. It was awful. So for our runs, I switched him to his regular riding bit. I tried really, really hard to stay off his face except for some light guidance in the turns. He still shook some in his first run, but then he was much better in his second (although he still did it on the 3rd). I'll just continue to use that bit for now and hopefully it was the bit that was the problem. And the head shaking will eventually go away now that it's fixed.

    Things I need to work on:
    --I thought I was using my outside leg to kick him over, but when I watch the video I'm not doing it enough (if at all). Use outside leg in the turn!

    --FINISH barrel 1 and 2 turns. His hind end is drifting big time.

    --Absolutely no hand pumping in-between the barrels. I need to keep my hands still and quiet.

    --After the second run, he knew we exit the arena in the corner. I need to make him run straight through the timer, all the way to the fence, and not him drift to where we exit the arena.

    --For the first run, on barrel 3, I knew I took him really wide into the pocket (although he finished it pretty nicely) so I need to get consistent about sending him to the same spot each time for the pocket.

    --I need to use two hands for longer into the pocket. I'm dropping the outside too soon.


    --Watching his footwork on run #1 barrel 1 in slow motion, I think his right stifle caught twice coming into the turn. (I'm keeping in VERY close connection with my vet on what I should or should not be doing with him.) I think that "catching" made him cross-fire in back, drift, and then he eventually switched to his left lead. We're taking it one run at a time to see how he improves and how he does. I am so hoping my arena dries up this week so that I can work on barrel flatwork and controlling his hind end better. If I can keep his body in position, he may not have a problem.

    --He stumbled coming into the 2nd barrel on run#1. I wonder if that's why he cross-fired in back again during the turn?

    --He switched to the wrong lead as we came into the 3rd barrel on run#1. Honestly, that was my fault. I shouldn't have come into the pocket so wide. I think I confused him.

    --For run #2 on the 1st barrel, I think his stifle caught for one stride coming into the pocket. But he kept his lead fine until we got to the backside and he swung his butt. This is where I think I am failing him. I need to keep his hind end engaged and he probably wouldn't cross-fire. Same idea on the 2nd barrel.

    --Left the 2nd barrel wide and I'm sure that's what threw his leads off, as he was on the right lead coming into the 3rd barrel. For me setting him up so poorly for the 3rd barrel, I'm actually very happy with how he turned it.







    Critique if you want. Helps me to process what I need to do if I write it all down.
         
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        04-08-2014, 08:03 AM
      #2
    Foal
    Your run overall looks great. But I noticed going around the barrels that your horse was kinda shaking or bobbing his head away from the pressure you had on the reins. If you use your legs and keep your seat while turning the barrels you may get a better turn that isnt so wide. Without wide turns you will have a lot better time. Overall great run.
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        04-08-2014, 10:08 AM
      #3
    Yearling
    He's not using his rear end to turn, which of his stifles are bothering him is probably why. Have you tried giving him his head? I notice you pull back towards your pocket which is how most ride but some horses you just have to give them their head and stay out of the way. Try putting your hand forward to turn and just kissing/clicking whatever you do to encourage him to move around the barrels. Experiment anyway.

    You've already pointed out your own mistakes. Overall he's improved.
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        04-08-2014, 12:24 PM
      #4
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Three Barrels    
    Without wide turns you will have a lot better time.
    LOL, I know. I was thinking to myself about how can I be 5 seconds behind the winners .... but I'm pretty sure those 5 seconds are ALL being wasted in his turns. They are not snappy.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BarrelRacer23    
    Have you tried giving him his head? I notice you pull back towards your pocket which is how most ride but some horses you just have to give them their head and stay out of the way. Try putting your hand forward to turn and just kissing/clicking whatever you do to encourage him to move around the barrels. Experiment anyway.
    Yes and no. At this barrel race, compared to last year, I think I am off his face WAY more than I used to be. I really focused hard on only making very light contact. I rode with my reins a little longer than I usually do in order to make sure I did just that.

    I'm certainly not opposed to trying to leave his head alone completely. (And use my legs much, much more.) I don't know if I can trust him to turn without any rein .... but that's the purpose of experimenting!
         
        04-13-2014, 06:19 PM
      #5
    Foal
    Watching in slow motion, I can see that you're pulling your rein toward your hip. Don't do that! If you want nicer turns, lift your inside hand with the rein to the ceiling! You'll get him into a nice, round shape in the turns and that will be nicer to ride on and easier on him. Just my two cents. Other than that, I think you pointed out yourself on what you need to fix. :) He's a really cute horse, too :)
         
        05-16-2014, 01:20 PM
      #6
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beau159    
    First barrel race of the season for us yesterday.

    Red has had very limited time on the pattern this year due to it still being greasy and slick outside (hopefully it dries up this week) and due to getting his health issues under control. In March, he got chiro'ed, teeth done, shoes put on, and right stifle injected. Now it is my responsibility to make sure that I get him to use his body correctly, which after our runs yesterday, I got a lot of work to do in that department.

    I'm not sure what's going on with his head shaking. I normally run him in a Carol Goosetree simplicity bit. During our exhibition practice yesterday, he was shaking his head like CRAZY. It was awful. So for our runs, I switched him to his regular riding bit. I tried really, really hard to stay off his face except for some light guidance in the turns. He still shook some in his first run, but then he was much better in his second (although he still did it on the 3rd). I'll just continue to use that bit for now and hopefully it was the bit that was the problem. And the head shaking will eventually go away now that it's fixed.

    Things I need to work on:
    --I thought I was using my outside leg to kick him over, but when I watch the video I'm not doing it enough (if at all). Use outside leg in the turn!

    --FINISH barrel 1 and 2 turns. His hind end is drifting big time.

    --Absolutely no hand pumping in-between the barrels. I need to keep my hands still and quiet.

    --After the second run, he knew we exit the arena in the corner. I need to make him run straight through the timer, all the way to the fence, and not him drift to where we exit the arena.

    --For the first run, on barrel 3, I knew I took him really wide into the pocket (although he finished it pretty nicely) so I need to get consistent about sending him to the same spot each time for the pocket.

    --I need to use two hands for longer into the pocket. I'm dropping the outside too soon.


    --Watching his footwork on run #1 barrel 1 in slow motion, I think his right stifle caught twice coming into the turn. (I'm keeping in VERY close connection with my vet on what I should or should not be doing with him.) I think that "catching" made him cross-fire in back, drift, and then he eventually switched to his left lead. We're taking it one run at a time to see how he improves and how he does. I am so hoping my arena dries up this week so that I can work on barrel flatwork and controlling his hind end better. If I can keep his body in position, he may not have a problem.

    --He stumbled coming into the 2nd barrel on run#1. I wonder if that's why he cross-fired in back again during the turn?

    --He switched to the wrong lead as we came into the 3rd barrel on run#1. Honestly, that was my fault. I shouldn't have come into the pocket so wide. I think I confused him.

    --For run #2 on the 1st barrel, I think his stifle caught for one stride coming into the pocket. But he kept his lead fine until we got to the backside and he swung his butt. This is where I think I am failing him. I need to keep his hind end engaged and he probably wouldn't cross-fire. Same idea on the 2nd barrel.

    --Left the 2nd barrel wide and I'm sure that's what threw his leads off, as he was on the right lead coming into the 3rd barrel. For me setting him up so poorly for the 3rd barrel, I'm actually very happy with how he turned it.




    Beard Barrel Race 4-6-2014 - YouTube



    Critique if you want. Helps me to process what I need to do if I write it all down.
    Do you "make your own" or obtain pre-trained horses? I really liked that when you turned the barrels, you weren't looking down at them, but at the next barrel so your horse knew exactly where the next destination was to be! I know I have trouble remembering to do that and it is SO IMPORTANT!
         
        05-16-2014, 02:07 PM
      #7
    Weanling
    1st run: You need to go out wider on the first barrel, the second barrel you went a little to wide, you need to use more out side leg.

    2nd Run: you went out too wide on all barrels.

    First barrel: go in wide come out close
    Second barrel: go in close come out wide
    Third barrel: Go in wide and come out close

    Use your feet!!!!! You gotta use your feet more!!!
    Lol
         
        05-16-2014, 05:43 PM
      #8
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by abbylhat    
    Do you "make your own" or obtain pre-trained horses?
    Don't have the money to buy them so I make my own.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3ringburner    
    1st run: You need to go out wider on the first barrel, the second barrel you went a little to wide, you need to use more out side leg.

    2nd Run: you went out too wide on all barrels.

    First barrel: go in wide come out close
    Second barrel: go in close come out wide
    Third barrel: Go in wide and come out close

    Use your feet!!!!! You gotta use your feet more!!!
    Lol
    Thank you for the critique (and I agree with you) but this is an "old" video as far as our progress goes. Here's the newest one:
    We got into the 4D!

    Gotta figure out that 2nd barrel. Definitely need to make sure he comes in close.
         

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